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« on: August 18, 2014, 07:56:17 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 09:37:44 AM »

Well, this is the second part of my plan to reform the war powers of the constitution, and it's fairly simple. While we discussed my failed proposal for Iraq there were significant doubts about whether the War Powers Resolution of 1973 was still valid legislation. It seems it hasn't been invoked or mentioned through the history of Atlasia (or at least the wiki implies that), but we have to assume it is still legal.

While we will need to be careful with the constitutional amendment and we will probably need a new war powers act in order to fix remaining details, I believe we should get rid for the War Powers Resolution if we want to make progress on the area. And there are many reasons for this; first because the bill is most likely unconstitutional and breaches the separation of powers (and the Supreme Court has refused to review it given the complications involved), and has been pointed as such from all administrations from Carter/Reagan to Bush II. Second because it can easily be ignored and it has been hard to enforce (hence why Clinton was so free to bomb several places through his Presidency) and third because its continued existence will force complications if my amendment to the Constitution passes, hence why I included a provision to wait until the regions have ratified the amendment just in case anyone is concerned we don't have an actual mechanism for a certain period of time.

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 04:37:31 PM »

So all this does is repeal the former War Powers Act contigent upon the Amendment passing?
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2014, 10:48:04 PM »

If the amendment doesn't pass the regions though, do you expect that if we passed this legislation that it could lead to all sorts of issues, Senator Lumine?
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2014, 11:08:26 PM »

If the amendment doesn't pass the regions though, do you expect that if we passed this legislation that it could lead to all sorts of issues, Senator Lumine?

Indeed, hence why this only goes into effect if the amendment is passed by the regions. I certainly wouldn't want to make things worse when it comes to the major problems we face here due to constitutional ambiguity.

So all this does is repeal the former War Powers Act contigent upon the Amendment passing?

Precisely, I figured it was not a good idea to keep it as it would only make things more confused and complicated.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 12:26:34 PM »

Is there any more questions? I'm not sure how the rest of the Senators feel about this bill, but if there is no more discussion we might as well go to a final vote soon (after all this is a rather simple bill).
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 10:15:00 AM »

I have no concerns or questions and will open a final vote as soon as desired.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 11:35:37 PM »

Very well then, I ask for a final vote on this bill.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2014, 09:09:24 AM »

Senators, a final vote is now open on this legislation. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2014, 09:09:48 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2014, 09:40:47 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2014, 11:51:37 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2014, 12:20:18 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2014, 12:27:19 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2014, 04:27:33 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2014, 04:29:01 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2014, 05:26:17 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2014, 10:19:39 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 02:45:41 PM »

With 9 votes in the affirmative and one Senator not voting, the Repeal of the War Powers Resolution Act can be declared as having passed the Senate.

Aye(s): President Pro Tempore TNF, Senator bore, Senator Lumine, Senator Cynic, Senator Cassius, Senator Spiral, Senator North Carolina Yankee, Senator Goldwater, Senator Cranberry
Nay(s): N/A
Abstentions: N/A
Not voting: Senator Alfred F. Jones
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 03:19:38 PM »

I sincerely thank my colleagues for passing this Act, hopefully the amendment will pass as well!
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2014, 03:37:11 PM »

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I think it's necessary to clear up this issue of war powers since the Constitution and the repository of statutes are vague on the matter.
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