Is the Republican's problem that they're too Southern?

[hopper]

Well too Deep South yes. The Deep South is so socially conservative that it ties into their belief of getting no immigration reform bill done I believe.

Virginia-Is more part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic region politically now because most of the growth in that state is in NOVA which that part of the state borders Maryland which is very Dem.

Florida-I don't even remember Florida even being deeply Southern even 20 years ago. I used to go to Florida every summer from 1990-1993 to visit relatives in Gainesville. My uncle(not from my side of the family) he grew up in Tampa he doesn't have a southern accent really at all.

[hopper]

Maybe if they went back to their 1968-1988 style of governing they could be competitive in both the North and South when their presidential candidates basically won both regions. The exception was 1968 when Democrat George Wallace ran as an Independent an won a few Southern States(in The Deep South)and Carter swept The South with the exception of Virginia which Ford carried. Carter only carried his home state of Georgia in his 1980 defeat to Reagan.

Than again people don't want a governing style from the 70's or 80's. They want the GOP to modify their policies on the presidential level and stop pandering to The Bible Belt Conservatives so much on the Presidential Level.

[hopper]

with the governors we elect in  MI,  MD, MA, OH will give us the electoral strength to break the GOP in the House, finally.

Um.. who?

Democrats arent winning OH

They probably cant win MA with Baker

Michigan is a stretch

Maryland's Democrat Party is not seriously contesting 2018.

I find your optimism brightening, though.

lol I agree with Ohio and Massachusetts but your dismissal of dem chances in Michigan and Maryland is hilarious.

It's a bit far out to make any reasonable predictions anyway. 4 years ago, I don't think any of us assumed that Corbett would be the only defeated GOP incumbent and Brownback was heavily at risk. If we have a GOP President, I don't see how we don't have at least a 50/50 shot in Michigan and Ohio. (Maryland and Massachusetts are more dependent on how Hogan and Baker's terms go.)

My point is that 2018 would be, generally, a very hard year for dems in Ohio and Massachusetts has a history of liking Republican moderates as Governor while Maryland has no indication of liking Republicans, incumbents especially, and Michigan is very strongly democratic statewide so saying that it's a "stretch" for them to win there is just downplaying their chances.

No, the GOP has had a majority in the State Senate since 1982. The Dems and Republicans have basically alternated control of the Governors Mansion by decade since the 80's.
Yes in Presidential Elections MI has voted D in every Presidential Election since 1982.

[hopper]

Well getting back to the original topic its like "The South" or at least "Deep South" hasn't moved with the rest of the country socially since 2004. SSM and Immigration Reform the rest of the country is for those 2 things but not  the "Deep South" and that is killing Republicans in Presidential Elections I think with younger voters born after 1986 maybe. I don't think SSM is a big deal to voters who first voted in the 2004 Presidential Election since SSM wasn't a winning issue for the Dems then. First Time Voters who voted in the 2008 Presidential Election graduated HS were born anywhere from 1987-1990.

[hopper]

To a certain extent but more so that they are seen as antiquated, too fixated on social issues, and that they repeat the same mistakes on election, i.e., focusing on cutting the wrong things or pushing anti-abortion, guns everywhere, religious stuff, etc. The need to become more populist, the more trusted, moderate economical managers and they can win - see New England GOP or UK Conservatives, for example.

Guns weren't a big topic in 2012 though. True the GOP needs a more moderate economic policy though.