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« on: July 21, 2014, 08:16:27 PM »
She's from Oklahoma, originally. Any chance??
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 08:21:59 PM »
I could see Elizabeth Warren winning the following states that Obama lost:
 
 
 
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 08:23:11 PM »
None, barring freakish circumstances and/or a terrible Republican nominee (like Cruz, Trump, Bachmann level terrible).
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 10:01:44 PM »
Quote from: boshembechle on July 21, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
She's from Oklahoma, originally. Any chance??
Yes, she wins Oklahoma. I could also see her winning Utah and Wyoming.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 11:08:39 PM »
« Edited: July 21, 2014, 11:23:18 PM by cbannon5 »
Quote from: boshembechle on July 21, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
She's from Oklahoma, originally. Any chance??


There is no way in the world that Elizabeth Warren, or any Democratic nominee imaginable, wins Oklahoma.   President Obama has never won a single county in the state of Oklahoma.  While Elizabeth Warren is from Oklahoma, it is not like she is a "favorite son" of the state.  She has never held elected office in the state.  Democrats in Oklahoma don't have the infrastructure to win a single Congressional seat (House or Senate) and they do not hold any statewide elected office.  
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 11:13:03 PM »
Only one that's possible really is North Carolina, and that would be a stretch.

Quote from: cbannon5 on July 21, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: Speaker SWE on July 21, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: boshembechle on July 21, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
She's from Oklahoma, originally. Any chance??
Yes, she wins Oklahoma. I could also see her winning Utah and Wyoming.

There is no way in the world that Elizabeth Warren, or any Democratic nominee imaginable, wins Oklahoma.  Just a reminder: President Obama has never won a single county in the state of Oklahoma.  While Elizabeth Warren is from Oklahoma, it is not like she is a "favorite son" of the state.  She has never held elected office in the state.  Democrats in Oklahoma don't have the infrastructure to win a single Congressional seat (House or Senate) and they do not hold any statewide elected office. 

He was being quite sarcastic.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 06:10:31 AM »
*crickets*
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 07:23:24 AM »

Warren will help in Oklahoma in the same way that Romney being born in Detroit and Dubya in New Haven helped them win Michigan and Connecticut respectively. That is to say, not at all.

As much as I'd like to say Warren will unlock a sea of discontent progressive voters that will swing a glorious wave of Atlas blue states, the electorate is so polarised at present that the Democrats have largely maxed most potential states (nor do they have much need to expand the map). The only two likely nominees that could shift the battlefield to other states are Clinton and Schweitzer.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 10:12:25 AM »
I think for the next Democrat, it's only downward from Obama's threshold. Stop smoking the granola, they're not gonna win Texas or Georgia for the foreseeable future, and it will only be possible then if the GOP doesn't attempt to defend their turf for 30 years or so.
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 12:09:32 PM »
Quote from: Speaker SWE on July 21, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: boshembechle on July 21, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
She's from Oklahoma, originally. Any chance??

Yes, she wins Oklahoma. I could also see her winning Utah and Wyoming.

The Republicans nominated John Wayne Gacy?
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 12:47:28 PM »
Quote from: TheHawk on July 22, 2014, 10:12:25 AM
I think for the next Democrat, it's only downward from Obama's threshold. Stop smoking the granola, they're not gonna win Texas or Georgia for the foreseeable future, and it will only be possible then if the GOP doesn't attempt to defend their turf for 30 years or so.

Can I have some of whatever you are smoking?
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 01:18:57 PM »
Quote from: illegaloperation on July 22, 2014, 12:47:28 PM
Quote from: TheHawk on July 22, 2014, 10:12:25 AM
I think for the next Democrat, it's only downward from Obama's threshold. Stop smoking the granola, they're not gonna win Texas or Georgia for the foreseeable future, and it will only be possible then if the GOP doesn't attempt to defend their turf for 30 years or so.

Can I have some of whatever you are smoking?

Ugh. What's wrong with this one?
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 02:45:30 PM »
I can't see Warren winning any state that Obama failed to put in his column.
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 02:48:40 PM »
This is like asking "can Ted Cruz win states Romney didn't?"
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 02:53:11 PM »
Quote from: Dixiecrat on July 22, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
This is like asking "can Ted Cruz win states Romney didn't?"

Very true.
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2014, 03:07:43 PM »
Quote from: Dixiecrat on July 22, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
This is like asking "can Ted Cruz win states Romney didn't?"
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 03:36:26 PM »
« Edited: July 22, 2014, 05:35:32 PM by TDAS04 »
She would not win any.  
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 05:24:58 PM »
None, she would lose a few Obama won.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 08:54:40 PM »
Quote from: Never on July 22, 2014, 02:53:11 PM
Quote from: Dixiecrat on July 22, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
This is like asking "can Ted Cruz win states Romney didn't?"

Very true.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2014, 11:11:21 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2014, 11:16:48 AM »
Why would you smoke granola though?
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2014, 11:51:06 AM »
Elizabeth Warren could potentially win North Carolina and maybe Georgia if the Republicans nominate an awful candidate like Rick Santorum or Ted Cruz. If the Republicans nominate a competent candidate like Jeb Bush, Chris Christie or Scott Walker, I could see Warren losing Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and New Hampshire at the very least though.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2014, 12:04:10 PM »
Quote from: boshembechle on July 21, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
She's from Oklahoma, originally. Any chance??


Depends on the trajectory.

If it's an election year won by the nominee of the Democratic Party, look at the national percentage margin, and you should be able to figure it out.

Since after the 1980s, the Republicans have won the U.S. Popular Vote just once.

I wouldn't dismiss the potential of a winning Democratic candidate as the naysayer who say that Georgia is off-limits have demonstrated.
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2014, 02:50:42 PM »
Quote from: MATTROSE94 on July 23, 2014, 11:51:06 AM
Elizabeth Warren could potentially win North Carolina and maybe Georgia if the Republicans nominate an awful candidate like Rick Santorum or Ted Cruz. If the Republicans nominate a competent candidate like Jeb Bush, Chris Christie or Scott Walker, I could see Warren losing Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado and New Hampshire at the very least though.

And thus the election.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2014, 06:08:32 PM »
She would win significantly fewer, IMO, though her recent populist campaigning in a few Southern states seems to be going well.
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