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« on: July 21, 2014, 10:08:28 PM »
« edited: July 26, 2014, 04:32:26 PM by Speaker SWE »

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Sponsor: Speaker SomebodyWhoExists

Debate on this bill will last for 72 hours, or until 11:08 PM on Thursday July 14, unless modified or extended. The sponsor has 36 hours to advocate for this proposed legislation. If he does not, this bill will be tabled as there is other pending legislation in the queue.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 10:10:29 PM »

I'm sponsoring this bill on behalf of former governor Dallasfan65, so I'll let him post his argument for this bill.

That said,  I'll definitely support this bill. #SameLove!
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 11:08:39 PM »

Support. #SameLoveIsLove
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 12:30:44 PM »

I'll vote for this. I've got no moral objection to people who love each other being together.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 04:17:25 PM »

Yeah, I have no problem.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2014, 10:17:11 PM »

Personally, I'm OK with this ^^
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2014, 12:42:12 AM »

OK.

I guess I was expecting to be truncated by more significant opposition given how far-flung the idea of legalizing incestuous unions might seem to some.

That being said, this is 2014. While causes such as polygamy and marriage between relatives aren't en vogue like gay marriage, they nonetheless are deserving of equal protection and legal recognition. Many people find the idea of incestuous relationships to be "ick", but my motto is UTDINYSTFU.

I'll be happy to post counter arguments in the event that this is met with some opposition.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2014, 10:26:10 AM »

Didn't know our laws on this were so draconian. I am obviously in favor of this.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2014, 10:45:54 AM »

I'm curious Dallasfan,
Would you defend this bill the same way you would defend polygamy?

Sorry for the interruption, I'm just curious. I personally see two different way to defend/condemn polygamy and incest.

Is it the case for you???
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2014, 03:35:41 PM »

I'm hesitant about this...it's quite a radical proposal.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2014, 04:32:10 PM »

I don't really share the sense of activism on this issue that the former Governor and some of my colleagues share for this, but at the same time, I don't really see a reason why it can legally be prevented. I don't think the government can or should legislate on issues of morality.

That said, my own great-great grandparents were related when they were married. Not one of their 11 children from their union suffered any severe mental or physical disabilities (though three died as young children through illnesses). My great-grandmother lived to be 87 and did not have any severe limitation on her faculties, nor has any member of my family suffered developmental disabilities, so I don't know how often such problems arise from those kinds of relationships, but in the case I'm most acquainted with, it didn't.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2014, 07:39:48 PM »
« Edited: July 23, 2014, 07:46:32 PM by Dallasfan65 »

Didn't know our laws on this were so draconian. I am obviously in favor of this.

Indeed! It's even worse when you look at the real life prohibitions on the matter. Fifteen years of prison time for incestuous relations? That's madness.

I'm curious Dallasfan,
Would you defend this bill the same way you would defend polygamy?

Sorry for the interruption, I'm just curious. I personally see two different way to defend/condemn polygamy and incest.

Is it the case for you???

Vice President, how do you condemn polygamy while defending incest?

On a more serious note, yes, I unequivocally support legalization of both.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2014, 01:03:21 AM »

Cheesy

Your answer is funny Dallasfan, but you haven't understood my question Sad.

I mean, I know you support polygamy and incest, I just wanted to know, if, in order to defend polygamy and incest, you have the same arguments, or you have different arguments.

Is it clearer???

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2014, 01:09:05 AM »

Cheesy

Your answer is funny Dallasfan, but you haven't understood my question Sad.

I mean, I know you support polygamy and incest, I just wanted to know, if, in order to defend polygamy and incest, you have the same arguments, or you have different arguments.

Is it clearer???



Huh

It's all the same love to me. Are we discussing priorities or...?
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2014, 01:11:19 AM »

Cheesy

Your answer is funny Dallasfan, but you haven't understood my question Sad.

I mean, I know you support polygamy and incest, I just wanted to know, if, in order to defend polygamy and incest, you have the same arguments, or you have different arguments.

Is it clearer???



Huh

It's all the same love to me. Are we discussing priorities or...?

That answers to my question. For you: the same argument for both: "love".

I was just curious.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2014, 01:15:24 AM »

I remember doing the math like
"Yeah I'm north of the Mason-Dixon"
pre-conceived idea of what it meant
Only hicks are attracted to their sisters
LeBron FitzGerald thinks it's a decision
can be cured by legislative action
Atlasia the brave, still fears what we don't know
And we paraphrase a Constitution written five years ago
It's the same fight that led to protest threads for polygamy
Human rights for all posters, there is no difference
Live on, and be yourself
When I was on IRC, Adam told me something else
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2014, 10:49:45 PM »

Debate on this bill is over. Representatives will now vote on this bill as written:

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Voting will remain open for 48 hours or until all representatives have voted.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2014, 10:50:37 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2014, 11:02:57 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2014, 02:37:29 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 10:32:28 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 10:58:13 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2014, 12:59:10 PM »

The voting period is now over. By a vote of 5-0-0, this bill goes to the governor for his signature or veto.
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2014, 12:06:23 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2014, 12:21:57 PM by Lincoln Republican »

If anyone needs any further proof how much this fantasy simulation has gotten carried away with whacko ideas and legislation, one need look no further than this abomination.

Why on earth pollute the good legislation and ideas presented on this board with this insanity?

If this travesty you call the Same Love Act doesn't show how much this board is controlled by pimply faced, immature nerds who have no idea whatever what a relationship is all about, or what love is all about, then nothing will.

Since nobody else around here has the guts to object to this totally ridiculous flight of fancy, then I will.

Just because all of you want to make it legal so you can have sex with your mother, your father, your sister, your brother,  your daughter, your son, doesn't mean everyone supports your sexual perversions and your incestuous lustfulness.    
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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2014, 04:32:04 PM »

The governor has signed this bill into law.
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