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« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2003, 10:01:27 am »
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Foriegn Policy debates and ones with the military favor the GOP.  The GOP has always been strong on defense whereas the Dems are immediately remembered with the 60's peace movement.

Reagan, Bush 41 were both tough on defense and you felt safe.  I'll never forget the quick strike on Libya, and how much have you heard of Khdafi since?

Carter flubbed up and got balmed for Iran and Clinton just ignored attack after attack, which is coming to light.  PLus he could have been handed OBL by Nigeria and said no.  SIGH.

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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2003, 05:06:50 pm »
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For you Gephardt fans:

The Gephardt campaign announced this morning that former House Whip David Bonior (D-Mich.) will formally endorse Gephardt today and begin serving as the campaign's national co-chairman.
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« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2003, 07:22:43 pm »
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There is something of an axiom in politics that when you have a decent chance at the highest office, you more or less will settle down in the center. This is bunk. Hitler did not move to the center, he just stayed angry as ever. Do not uderestimate human beings, we are capable f incredible stupidity.

As to Dean, I do not see any sign that he will be moving back to the center. I think he will run a campaign on hate, anger, and vitriol, with a neo-socialist give-peave-a-chance flavor.
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2003, 07:24:53 pm »
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For you Gephardt fans:

The Gephardt campaign announced this morning that former House Whip David Bonior (D-Mich.) will formally endorse Gephardt today and begin serving as the campaign's national co-chairman.

Great, now all Gephardt needs is an endorsement from Harvey the rabbit.
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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2003, 07:40:37 pm »
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You know, Edwards could have been great- right accent, right looks, right money, right positions. His flop has been one of the biggest disappointments of the campaign season, in many ways worse than Kerry's, which is easily attributable to Dean.
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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2003, 08:58:39 pm »
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Edwards = slick ambulance chaser with Breck hair.
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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2003, 02:08:55 pm »
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You know, Edwards could have been great- right accent, right looks, right money, right positions. His flop has been one of the biggest disappointments of the campaign season, in many ways worse than Kerry's, which is easily attributable to Dean.


I agree.  I remember when Edwards announced his candidacy, I said to my friends and family when talking politics, "that's the guy Bush needs to look out for."  Looking back, I see I was very wrong.  Edwards is nowhere, and I really don't see him getting anywhere.  I've said it before though, he would be a good VP candidate.  However, should Dean win the nomination, I don't see him choosing Edwards for VP; I see him choosing Clark.
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2003, 02:48:06 pm »
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Edwards should have waited till 2008, but not sure if he could get reelected to the Senate.  So much like Braun in IL, who got beat for reelection and is running.

Can't win in the home state, so hey lets run nationwide.
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2003, 05:04:04 pm »
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Edwards should have waited till 2008, but not sure if he could get reelected to the Senate.  So much like Braun in IL, who got beat for reelection and is running.

Can't win in the home state, so hey lets run nationwide.

Edwards would have likely been defeated.
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2003, 07:46:50 pm »

You know, Edwards could have been great- right accent, right looks, right money, right positions. His flop has been one of the biggest disappointments of the campaign season, in many ways worse than Kerry's, which is easily attributable to Dean.


I agree.  I remember when Edwards announced his candidacy, I said to my friends and family when talking politics, "that's the guy Bush needs to look out for."  Looking back, I see I was very wrong.  Edwards is nowhere, and I really don't see him getting anywhere.  I've said it before though, he would be a good VP candidate.  However, should Dean win the nomination, I don't see him choosing Edwards for VP; I see him choosing Clark.
But CLARK has already stated in an interview with Wolf Blitzer of CNN that he would never play second fiddle.
My dream candidacy would be Wesley Clark/Jonathan Edwards. Reminiscent of the Clinton/Gore Eras. Of course, that was before GORE became a turncoat.
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2003, 07:48:26 pm »

Edwards = slick ambulance chaser with Breck hair.
How do you know he uses Breck? Could be Vidal Sasson Vo5!
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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2003, 11:44:51 pm »
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Well that does it: Madonna has officially endorsed Wesley Clark for President.  That makes my decision easy: Clark for Prez!

Frankly, why don't we just skip the election and have Clark select his White House office desk?

(Perhaps sarcasm doesn't travel well via e-mail)
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« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2003, 05:27:06 am »
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Micheal Moore has endorsed him as well(not good for Nader)
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« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2003, 01:02:33 pm »
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Good another out of touch liberal endorsement for Dean, good.  
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« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2003, 03:24:55 pm »
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Edwards = slick ambulance chaser with Breck hair.
Just curious here ... where do you get the characterization of Edwards as an "ambulance chaser"?  Yeah, he was a lawyer ... but so are about 85% of the guys in politics.
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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2003, 03:29:26 pm »
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Good another out of touch liberal endorsement for Dean, good.  

Moore endorsed Clark.
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« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2003, 03:31:03 pm »
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Good another out of touch liberal endorsement for Dean, good.  

Moore endorsed Clark.

Moore does was Clinton tells him too.
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« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2003, 03:35:42 pm »
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Moore does was Clinton tells him too.
Umm ... Michael Moore attacked Clinton ... indirectly, but it was an attack when he called him "one of the best Republican presidents we've ever had."

Methinks he doesn't do as Bill says.
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2003, 04:29:07 am »
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...And Moore was really pissed off about NAFTA...
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« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2003, 07:37:45 pm »
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And Michael Moore supported Ralph Nader in 2000. So no, Moore is no fan of Clinton. Kind of surprising actually that he would support Clark and not one of the more liberal Dems, but I think he has realized that Clark would stand the best chance of defeating Bush, and has become more pragmatic.
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« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2003, 11:34:17 pm »
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I wouldn't brag about having Michael Moore on my side.  The man is out of control and I'd feel pretty safe to bet that the majority of Americans (the few who actually know who he is) do not like him.
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« Reply #46 on: December 25, 2003, 05:39:46 am »
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I wouldn't brag about having Michael Moore on my side.  The man is out of control and I'd feel pretty safe to bet that the majority of Americans (the few who actually know who he is) do not like him.

He is very loved in Sweden though!
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« Reply #47 on: December 25, 2003, 05:17:28 pm »
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I wouldn't brag about having Michael Moore on my side.  The man is out of control and I'd feel pretty safe to bet that the majority of Americans (the few who actually know who he is) do not like him.
He is very funny, but you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #48 on: December 25, 2003, 05:21:03 pm »

And Michael Moore supported Ralph Nader in 2000. So no, Moore is no fan of Clinton. Kind of surprising actually that he would support Clark and not one of the more liberal Dems, but I think he has realized that Clark would stand the best chance of defeating Bush, and has become more pragmatic.
Someone got some common sense finally. Hmm, been waiting to see that for a long time.
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« Reply #49 on: December 25, 2003, 08:28:23 pm »
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Perhaps Moore would make a good running mate for Howard Dean.  We could all be entertained by Michael Moore's "humor" at the same time we enjoyed Howard Dean's angry tirades against Bush.  Real entertainment.
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