The Other Frontrunner

[Free Bird]

Since the poll I made on the other thread was garbage, I updated it. Just for clarification, I do NOT include any candidates who have specifically denied interest, but by default added whoever has expressed explicit interest.

[Suburbia]

Either Biden or O Malley.  Cuomo may end up as the Lieberman 2004 of the race. Warner could be a frontrunner too, but in New Hampshire he may have the edge IMO.

[Supersonic]

It'll be Biden.

[NHLiberal]

I think it's pretty clear that Gillibrand's denial applies only in the case that Hillary runs. Also, why is Christie in here?

[Dixie Reborn]

100% of Republicans want Joe Biden to be the Dem Nominee.

[SWE]

Chris Christie

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Biden. And I'd support him if my guys nominated someone like Cruz, too. Joe Biden is great.

[Free Bird]

I think it's pretty clear that Gillibrand's denial applies only in the case that Hillary runs. Also, why is Christie in here?

Because that's what he really is

[IceSpear]

Biden would be the frontrunner at first, but he wouldn't win.

[bballrox4717]

Yeah, all the Dem big wigs would give Biden the money for his due shot at the nomination unless another candidate (like Warren or Gillibrand) presents themselves as a better option.

As for the others: Cuomo isn't going to sell well on a national stage as his personality and voice are incredibly off-putting to those outside of the northeast, or even the Tri-State area for that matter. O'Malley and Klobuchar seem more like talking heads than presidential material and won't go anywhere unless they try and drive up the Warren crowd. Booker won't run with less than 2 years of Senate experience. Schweitzer, if he stops his crazy streak, will lose on guns. Webb and Warner have enough experience and stature that one of them could reasonably challenge Biden if Warren and Gillibrand stay out.

[Free Bird]

Yeah, all the Dem big wigs would give Biden the money for his due shot at the nomination unless another candidate (like Warren or Gillibrand) presents themselves as a better option.

As for the others: Cuomo isn't going to sell well on a national stage as his personality and voice are incredibly off-putting to those outside of the northeast, or even the Tri-State area for that matter. O'Malley and Klobuchar seem more like talking heads than presidential material and won't go anywhere unless they try and drive up the Warren crowd. Booker won't run with less than 2 years of Senate experience. Schweitzer, if he stops his crazy streak, will lose on guns. Webb and Warner have enough experience and stature that one of them could reasonably challenge Biden if Warren and Gillibrand stay out.

To quote Ken Wantanabe, "let them fight."

[eric82oslo]

Elizabeth Warren or Kirsten Gillibrand. Easy. I guess Andrew Cuomo could be formidable as well, if he decided to run. Same with Mark Warner.

[SWE]

I think it's pretty clear that Gillibrand's denial applies only in the case that Hillary runs. Also, why is Christie in here?

Because that's what he really is

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[Maxwell]

Biden or Warren, which is why I think it's stupid shes not on the list.

[solarstorm]

Warren or Schweitzer

[Del Tachi]

Biden would be the initial frontrunner, but I can see him losing to O'Malley. 

[Maxwell]

Biden would be the initial frontrunner, but I can see him losing to O'Malley. 

I can't see a rock losing to O'Malley in a non-Maryland electorate. He's at 2% in Maryland.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Biden. Easy. Next question.


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I think it's pretty clear that Gillibrand's denial applies only in the case that Hillary runs. Also, why is Christie in here?

Because that's what he really is
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Dude.

[Del Tachi]

Biden would be the initial frontrunner, but I can see him losing to O'Malley. 

O'Malley's got a decidedly progressive record though, and I can see him snatching up the grassroots "Clinton/Biden aren't conservative enough!" vote.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the Black/Hispanic vote in the primaries as well.  I just don't see Biden as the type of candidate who can appeal to a minority electorate.  However, I don't think a white liberal like O'Malley or Gillibrand would either.  Maybe someone more conservative like Cuomo?

I can't see a rock losing to O'Malley in a non-Maryland electorate. He's at 2% in Maryland.

[Free Bird]

Biden or Warren, which is why I think it's stupid shes not on the list.

She has made a Shermanesque statement saying she's not running

[MATTROSE94]

100% of Republicans want Joe Biden to be the Dem Nominee.

I could see the Republican candidate winning with over 300 Electoral Votes if Joe Biden is the Democratic nominee.

[DS0816]

Since the poll I made on the other thread was garbage, I updated it. Just for clarification, I do NOT include any candidates who have specifically denied interest, but by default added whoever has expressed explicit interest.

Given that you included [Republican] New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, this poll is also "garbage."

[DS0816]

People can write off Vice President Joe Biden! He won't be the nominee. And I think it's just wasted, let-me-talk-because-I-like-to nonsense to be seriously considering the 47th vice president as the 2016 presidential nominee.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Biden. And I'd support him if my guys nominated someone like Cruz, too. Joe Biden is great.

It'd be worth it for four more years of great "Onion" articles and giving the GOP time to find a proper candidate (or just finally nominate one that was already present). My ideal matchup would probably be Rand vs. Biden or Christie vs. Biden.

Also, if you're including Christie in this poll, it's quite clearly a trollpoll and should be ignored.

[Maxwell]

Biden or Warren, which is why I think it's stupid shes not on the list.

She has made a Shermanesque statement saying she's not running

Candidates deny all the time. I assume her denial is at least partially because Hillary Clinton is running, and if she didn't, then the field would be more open.