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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2014, 08:40:09 PM »

War College has convened a review board. If they confirm these findings his degree can be revoked.
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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2014, 07:35:36 AM »

Walsh is a pretty awful candidate, Dems should have nominated Bollinger, they made a mistake anointing Walsh, he's going to crash and burn and they are going to lose this seat. Bollinger would have won

Bohlinger is 78 years old. That's too old to be running for your first term.
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2014, 08:47:15 AM »

Walsh is a pretty awful candidate, Dems should have nominated Bollinger, they made a mistake anointing Walsh, he's going to crash and burn and they are going to lose this seat. Bollinger would have won

Bohlinger is 78 years old. That's too old to be running for your first term.

Well he did say he'd only serve one term, but yeah I agree that Walsh is the better candidate.
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2014, 08:51:20 PM »

Walsh is a pretty awful candidate, Dems should have nominated Bollinger, they made a mistake anointing Walsh, he's going to crash and burn and they are going to lose this seat. Bollinger would have won

Bohlinger is 78 years old. That's too old to be running for your first term.

Well he did say he'd only serve one term, but yeah I agree that Walsh is the better candidate.

I think that Walsh will almost definitely lose this race, but I think Bullock should run for this seat when he's termed out of the statehouse in 2020.
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2014, 10:48:12 PM »

Walsh is a pretty awful candidate, Dems should have nominated Bollinger, they made a mistake anointing Walsh, he's going to crash and burn and they are going to lose this seat. Bollinger would have won

Bohlinger is 78 years old. That's too old to be running for your first term.

Well he did say he'd only serve one term, but yeah I agree that Walsh is the better candidate.

Bohlinger is not a plagiarist who may get his degree revoked though.
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« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2014, 12:43:47 PM »

The War College punishment is having your plaque sandblasted, dunno about other stuff. Paper's 14 pages.

A Master thesis on 14 pages? Ridiculous.

Seriously.  What kind of a joke college hands out degrees for 14 pages of work?  My aunt is a Ph.D and had to write a something-hundred-page book to get her diploma.  Have standards fallen this much?
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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2014, 11:13:25 PM »

Walsh is a pretty awful candidate, Dems should have nominated Bollinger, they made a mistake anointing Walsh, he's going to crash and burn and they are going to lose this seat. Bollinger would have won

Bohlinger is 78 years old. That's too old to be running for your first term.

Well he did say he'd only serve one term, but yeah I agree that Walsh is the better candidate.

Bohlinger is not a plagiarist who may get his degree revoked though.

if he had served one term and been replaced by someone else I don't see what the problem is
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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2014, 08:45:16 PM »

Also, the master's thesis only had to be 14 pages?

This is not to denigrate John Walsh, but I had to write longer papers than that when I was in 6th grade. And I'm not exaggerating.

Sounds to me like he was attending a big diploma mill.

What the hell kind of middle school did you attend? Tongue

This was in northern Kentucky in the 1980s.

Schools around here are more difficult than most places.

I highly doubt that.  Even the propaganda libertarians post about how great 1950's education was shows middle school tests as just pure regurgitation of many civics concepts.   If 16 page papers were all the rage in middle school in the 1980's, I think the right would be screaming about that.  Also, no offense, but if what you said were true, Northern Kentucky students would be going to prestigious colleges in droves, which is not the case.
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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2014, 08:48:29 PM »

I highly doubt that.  Even the propaganda libertarians post about how great 1950's education was shows middle school tests as just pure regurgitation of many civics concepts.   If 16 page papers were all the rage in middle school in the 1980's, I think the right would be screaming about that.  Also, no offense, but if what you said were true, Northern Kentucky students would be going to prestigious colleges in droves, which is not the case.

Not so sure you quite understand northern Kentucky schooling.
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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2014, 11:03:01 PM »

I highly doubt that.  Even the propaganda libertarians post about how great 1950's education was shows middle school tests as just pure regurgitation of many civics concepts.   If 16 page papers were all the rage in middle school in the 1980's, I think the right would be screaming about that.  Also, no offense, but if what you said were true, Northern Kentucky students would be going to prestigious colleges in droves, which is not the case.

Not so sure you quite understand northern Kentucky schooling.

All I'm saying is that if Northern Kentucky schools could get middle school students to write 16 page papers, then surely the average SAT scores for kids in that area would be much higher than it is.  Kentucky's SAT average is at best average, IIRC.  I would expect kids who write 16 page papers in middle school to get, on average, at least 700 on Critical Reading and Writing (or just Verbal in 1980's), which is not the case.
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« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2014, 11:42:28 PM »

Who cares about plagiarism?

Montana isn't Germany.
Seriously, that will last 1week, and after, nothing more.


No, it is getting play and Walsh bungled his response.  This is probably fatal although I will wait for polling confirmation.

Why did the NYT have to look into this?

Because the New York Times is not Pravda.
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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2014, 07:15:59 AM »

I highly doubt that.  Even the propaganda libertarians post about how great 1950's education was shows middle school tests as just pure regurgitation of many civics concepts.   If 16 page papers were all the rage in middle school in the 1980's, I think the right would be screaming about that.  Also, no offense, but if what you said were true, Northern Kentucky students would be going to prestigious colleges in droves, which is not the case.

Not so sure you quite understand northern Kentucky schooling.

All I'm saying is that if Northern Kentucky schools could get middle school students to write 16 page papers, then surely the average SAT scores for kids in that area would be much higher than it is.  Kentucky's SAT average is at best average, IIRC.  I would expect kids who write 16 page papers in middle school to get, on average, at least 700 on Critical Reading and Writing (or just Verbal in 1980's), which is not the case.

ITT Bandit might have been falsely idealising Northern Kentucky school standards based off of his exceptional experience at one school.

I mean, I had a pretty good schooling in Oklahoma.  That doesn't necessarily mean that Oklahoma schools in general were/are exceptional.
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2014, 11:45:07 AM »

Who cares about plagiarism?

Montana isn't Germany.
Seriously, that will last 1week, and after, nothing more.


No, it is getting play and Walsh bungled his response.  This is probably fatal although I will wait for polling confirmation.

Why did the NYT have to look into this?

Because the New York Times is not Pravda.

Indeed.  While editorial pages of many big newspapers lean left, Republicans have got to admit that the "lamestream media" isn't totally in the D court.  If that were the case, they've been doing an awful job recently.
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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2014, 12:38:33 PM »

Who cares about plagiarism?

Montana isn't Germany.
Seriously, that will last 1week, and after, nothing more.


No, it is getting play and Walsh bungled his response.  This is probably fatal although I will wait for polling confirmation.

Why did the NYT have to look into this?

Because the New York Times is not Pravda.

Indeed.  While editorial pages of many big newspapers lean left, Republicans have got to admit that the "lamestream media" isn't totally in the D court.  If that were the case, they've been doing an awful job recently.

Exactly. When there are glaring faults in a Democratic candidate, it is not a given that left-leaning media outlets will ignore them.
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« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2014, 03:31:40 PM »

Walsh is contemplating whether to drop out. Keenan, Bohlinger or Schriock are being mooted as replacements.
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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2014, 03:42:32 PM »


John Tester's "This is not a death knell" just got a lot more hilarious.
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2014, 07:09:52 PM »

Walsh has cancelled a bunch of public events.
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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2014, 07:57:07 PM »

Just have the Dems sub in Bohlinger and call it a day. Then Bullock runs in 2020 when he's termed out from being governor.
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« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2014, 10:01:14 PM »

How about Schweitzer?
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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2014, 10:21:15 PM »


If Schweitzer wanted to run, he'd have decided to run back in 2013.
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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2014, 11:02:30 PM »


He's too busy being an asshole to do the right thing for his party and run.
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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2014, 11:11:54 PM »

Maybe BS just doesn't want to be a Senator?

Wasn't there supposedly dirt on him too, which scared him out?
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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2014, 11:36:36 PM »

Why bother dropping out? We were already going to lose this seat before the plagiarism scandal, and we're still going to lose it afterwards. All it really did was cut his odds from about ~5% to 1%.

I guess it does make Dems look a bit better to force him out.
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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2014, 11:53:10 PM »

Why bother dropping out? We were already going to lose this seat before the plagiarism scandal, and we're still going to lose it afterwards. All it really did was cut his odds from about ~5% to 1%.

I guess it does make Dems look a bit better to force him out.

It also would set up a nice contrast against Rand Paul. Not that his plagiarism was as bad as this but still
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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2014, 11:54:48 PM »

It also would set up a nice contrast against Rand Paul. Not that his plagiarism was as bad as this but still

Rand Paul's plagiarism wasn't as bad as this. It was WORSE!
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