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« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2004, 03:55:13 AM »

Most of the younger kids I run into have the following problems:

-Laziness
-I don't care attitude
-Expect to just get a check instead of  earn one
-Thinks they are superior to those older then them
-Have no respect for elders.

In my experience the kids coming out of highschool are sorry. They don't want to work and when they do they just want to cut corners so they can get a paycheck they've barely earned. The reason is because their parents gave them to much growing up.

Every generation believes this of those who follow them, and yet there never seems to be any generation of total degenerates once they grow up.

The 60s generation comes very close to it. Those like Kerry and his ilk. I think this current MTV generation will be a death blow to the US as we know it.

You cannot really blame the younger generation because it is people twice their age creating the mindless and vapid culture.  People who were raised by T.V. and who create programs for those with short attention spans.
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« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2004, 04:07:34 AM »

You cannot really blame the younger generation because it is people twice their age creating the mindless and vapid culture.  People who were raised by T.V. and who create programs for those with short attention spans.

True. TV is bad enough over here, but some of the rubbish churned out in the U.S is so bad it's impressive.

Did you know that most Americans spend most of their time watching TV, channel hopping?
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« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2004, 04:26:07 AM »

You cannot really blame the younger generation because it is people twice their age creating the mindless and vapid culture.  People who were raised by T.V. and who create programs for those with short attention spans.

True. TV is bad enough over here, but some of the rubbish churned out in the U.S is so bad it's impressive.

Did you know that most Americans spend most of their time watching TV, channel hopping?

I think you people are all focusing on the negatives. Today's kids are less likely to smoke, do drugs, get pregnant or commit crimes than previous generations. And we are more likely to go to college and get an excellent education.

Things are getting better, not worse.
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« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2004, 08:46:35 AM »

Most of the younger kids I run into have the following problems:

-Laziness
-I don't care attitude
-Expect to just get a check instead of  earn one
-Thinks they are superior to those older then them
-Have no respect for elders.

In my experience the kids coming out of highschool are sorry. They don't want to work and when they do they just want to cut corners so they can get a paycheck they've barely earned. The reason is because their parents gave them to much growing up.

My guess, Senator, is that you are part of the "Grubber" (WWII)Generation, and a current retiree, living in Florida, since you seem to think that everyone should "respect their elders".  But what  have their elders done to respect the youth of this country?  Simply voted  themselves ever larger shares of the economic production of this country in the form of large "entitlement" benefits for which they failed to contribute their fair share.  When you consider the change in the governments assets and liabilities as part of the surplus/deficit calculation (as any business must do), the US has not run a surplus since 1929 - largely due do the ever growing and expanding welfare state designed to support those over 60, who, not coincidentally, are the wealthiest people in America.
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« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2004, 08:51:52 AM »

I notice a lot of economic conservatism, too.  A real suspicion of big government.

John,  I don't think so  - Xers are anti-government and institutions in general.  Millenials will grow up idolizing their parents "passion" for causes, and will look to build institutions to realize those causes aims, just as the GI (Grubber) Generation built "collective security" programs, as a "solution" to the problems of national security and (for themselves at any rate) economic security.
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« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2004, 09:47:24 AM »

Well as far as youth conservatism or whatever goes, here's what I see in my MS high school:

The majority of whites prefer Bush, but there are quite a few supporting Kerry, and all of the blacks prefer Kerry, as do the other minorities.  I don't know if we're going to have a mock election or not, but it'd probably somewhere along the lines of 55-45 in favor of Bush.
People here are definitely more conservative on abortion, even the Dems.  But on other issues, people are pretty liberal.  The religious fanatics oppose gay marriage, but almost everyone else I know, even the Republicans, support it.  Even most Republicans are pretty economically liberal.
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« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2004, 09:56:03 AM »

Most of the younger kids I run into have the following problems:

-Laziness
-I don't care attitude
-Expect to just get a check instead of  earn one
-Thinks they are superior to those older then them
-Have no respect for elders.

In my experience the kids coming out of highschool are sorry. They don't want to work and when they do they just want to cut corners so they can get a paycheck they've barely earned. The reason is because their parents gave them to much growing up.

My guess, Senator, is that you are part of the "Grubber" (WWII)Generation, and a current retiree, living in Florida, since you seem to think that everyone should "respect their elders".

Sorry, but this is just a ROFLOLMAO statement... he's 25 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2004, 09:57:22 AM »

Most of the younger kids I run into have the following problems:

-Laziness
-I don't care attitude
-Expect to just get a check instead of earn one
-Thinks they are superior to those older then them
-Have no respect for elders.

In my experience the kids coming out of highschool are sorry. They don't want to work and when they do they just want to cut corners so they can get a paycheck they've barely earned. The reason is because their parents gave them to much growing up.

Every generation believes this of those who follow them, and yet there never seems to be any generation of total degenerates once they grow up.

The 60s generation comes very close to it. Those like Kerry and his ilk. I think this current MTV generation will be a death blow to the US as we know it.

You're the MTV generation.  We're the... uhhh... Internet generation?  PC generation?

AIM generation? Tongue
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« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2004, 09:58:48 AM »

I notice a lot of economic conservatism, too.  A real suspicion of big government.

John, I don't think so - Xers are anti-government and institutions in general. Millenials will grow up idolizing their parents "passion" for causes, and will look to build institutions to realize those causes aims, just as the GI (Grubber) Generation built "collective security" programs, as a "solution" to the problems of national security and (for themselves at any rate) economic security.

I think my generation is just suspicious in general Smiley

"I think big government is bad... but we cannot trust businesses either!  Who can we trust?!?"
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« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2004, 12:51:16 PM »

Most of the younger kids I run into have the following problems:

-Laziness
-I don't care attitude
-Expect to just get a check instead of  earn one
-Thinks they are superior to those older then them
-Have no respect for elders.

In my experience the kids coming out of highschool are sorry. They don't want to work and when they do they just want to cut corners so they can get a paycheck they've barely earned. The reason is because their parents gave them to much growing up.

My guess, Senator, is that you are part of the "Grubber" (WWII)Generation, and a current retiree, living in Florida, since you seem to think that everyone should "respect their elders".

Sorry, but this is just a ROFLOLMAO statement... he's 25 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yes, no one in Florida is under 50 years of age.
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« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2004, 07:34:04 AM »

as i've said, our generation are small 'l' liberals-socially and economically. Since we've been politically aware, unions have been obstructionist rather then fighting for rights. In Australia, we've had a great economic record for almost nine years because of the liberal economic policies of Peter Costello, yet we've aklso seen sopcial conservatism that we really really REALLY don't like.

On foreign policy, we're very divided, we all tend to agree that Australia's focus should be on South East Asia, but the degree that we are isolationist vs. the degree that we are interventionalist is quite an importnant issue amongst our generation. Another important foreign policy issue is the US alliance, which many of my general believe is one way, dangerous and not of any real benefit. I strongly disagree, obviously, but then again, I read more then the TV guide in newspapers.

Overall I think my generation will be one that searchest for Australia and moulds it more then any of the other recent generations (post Baby Boomer ones, at least). We're the kids of baby boomers, pretty larhe, and one of the most united generations ever on social and economic issues. The debate in Australian politics in 30 years will not be between the Liberals' social policies vs. the ALPs economic policies, it will be about the Liberals economic politcies vs. the ALPs social policies, and this trend has already started.
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« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2004, 09:56:35 AM »


Hola!

A Gulf War 2 veteran will run for President and be nominated by one of the major parties at least by 2020, more than likely 2024, or 2028. America will be in serious decline by then, just an aging empire in comparison of the European Union, China, Asian Rim Alliance states (Japan, Vietnam, Korean Federation) plus the age old battle in the Middle East, but by then may come down to a nuclear arms race between Israel and regional powers. Terrorism will still plague the world, but the various nations, The nations and the alliances will have the problem somewhat under control.  By then people think of Sept. 11th, 2001 as many of us now think of Pearl Harbor. Maybe in the future, a comprimise may be set up to where 9-11 and Labor Day are the same holiday.

American debt will be crippling by then if government spending continues as is. Social Security must have been reformed, or it is by 2028 insolvent. Much of the USA debts will be handled by Euro Union, China, or the Asian Rim Alliance Nations. CHINA will be a strong nation, but a nation beset with the ongoing difficulties in overpopulation (concerning wealth, by 2028, China will be choked with too many automobiles, environmental pollution is very grave in much of the Eastern Rim and China. China will remain an authoritarian regime, because it must to keep their union together. I cannot say if China will invade Taiwan by then, but it is a clear possibility. I think Taiwan and China will reach some kind of "commonwealth" agreement, like Hong Kong has now.

Mexicans will be a majority in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California by 2028. These states will vote as a block, and the state governments will make it easier for foreigners (especially Mexicans and Hispanics) to more freely come over the borders. A few right wing leaders will want these states to secede and rejoin Mexico, but they are a minority, why share power with Mexico, or for the Federal Union of the USA for that matter. States rights are going to matter by this time, and the Federal government will has less control, due to the massive debt.

The 50 largest cities in America will be controlled by black mayor and majority black city councils. There will be more blacks in public office and possibly a balck VP or a black President by 2028. Gays will be more than accepted in the political and social spectrum, top the point where a person's sexual preference is a non-issue (Praise Jesus!)

Hopefully, by 2024, 2028, a good woman will be the President of the USA.

The New Orleans Saints will be Super Bowl champs three years in a row. Jerry Rice is still playing wide receiver. Boston Red Socks will have lost their division 24 years in a row, calling it the "Curse of Kerry". David Lee Roth will be playing Vegas as an old lounge singer.

I also see 100-150 story affordable housing apartments for people by the year 2028, especially in the Far East. Television will have 500 channels, and there will be broadband internet, so anyone around the Earth can watch a broadcast from anywhere via a computer monitor. The television (as a machine) will be obsolete. Laugh. If I told people in 1980 that one day the typewriter will be obsolete, people would laugh. But now we have computers and word processors, nobody uses a typewriter. I also believe that the science of robotics will be clearly underway, and by the mid-century a wealthy child can play with an adorable robot dog that feels real, or may even have a robot servent serving him cookies and will read him a bedtime story before bed.

In 2028, technology will be wonderful, but only with those individuals who can pay for it. I am afraid that by 2028, there will be a great division between poor and wealthy in this country and worldwide, which may arise a new interest in socialism and communist thought.

POPULATION will be an issue for this generation. America will have 500 million people. There will be over 7 Billion people worldwide. China will hold the line on "One Child" policy, but will still have to fight with the growing world for food. China cannot grow all it needs and will have to import more and more from the USA. The USA will continue being the "breadbasket" of the Earth, but the farms will be mainly controlled by corporations living off of subsidies from the Federal government and profits on the world markets.

Political parties will remain the same until the USA teeters off a cliff, and then there will be a revolution, a fracturing of parties, or America will have more of a one party system with minor throw off parties who are merely farts in the wind. This party may be the merging of the Democratic and the Republican parties more or less joined together at the hip, being controlled by the wealthy and the special interest, and they will run candidates seperately but in  collusion to each other.

My generation (post baby boom) will have to pay for the Social Security of the post baby boom generation, a group of people that have lived throught the best economic and technological times in American and human history. Although some were killed in Vietnam (and I salute them), most could find work in the private sector and live a comfortable life. Our generation is poorer than theirs, but yet, we have to pay part of their retirement. I guess FDR thought that the succeeding generations were going to have more people and could support their elders.

I have said too much, but it gives you an idea of what i think future life and problems will be like.

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« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2004, 10:46:38 PM »


Hola!

A Gulf War 2 veteran will run for President and be nominated by one of the major parties at least by 2020, more than likely 2024, or 2028.

I will be vice president in 2032 and our policies will include the elmination of all taxes, and the funding of public projects by people themselves, voluntarily.  I'm not a Gulf War 2 veteran, but my running mate (the president) might be.
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« Reply #88 on: November 09, 2004, 07:03:52 PM »


Hola!

A Gulf War 2 veteran will run for President and be nominated by one of the major parties at least by 2020, more than likely 2024, or 2028. America will be in serious decline by then, just an aging empire in comparison of the European Union, China, Asian Rim Alliance states (Japan, Vietnam, Korean Federation) plus the age old battle in the Middle East, but by then may come down to a nuclear arms race between Israel and regional powers. Terrorism will still plague the world, but the various nations, The nations and the alliances will have the problem somewhat under control.  By then people think of Sept. 11th, 2001 as many of us now think of Pearl Harbor. Maybe in the future, a comprimise may be set up to where 9-11 and Labor Day are the same holiday.

American debt will be crippling by then if government spending continues as is. Social Security must have been reformed, or it is by 2028 insolvent. Much of the USA debts will be handled by Euro Union, China, or the Asian Rim Alliance Nations. CHINA will be a strong nation, but a nation beset with the ongoing difficulties in overpopulation (concerning wealth, by 2028, China will be choked with too many automobiles, environmental pollution is very grave in much of the Eastern Rim and China. China will remain an authoritarian regime, because it must to keep their union together. I cannot say if China will invade Taiwan by then, but it is a clear possibility. I think Taiwan and China will reach some kind of "commonwealth" agreement, like Hong Kong has now.

Mexicans will be a majority in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California by 2028. These states will vote as a block, and the state governments will make it easier for foreigners (especially Mexicans and Hispanics) to more freely come over the borders. A few right wing leaders will want these states to secede and rejoin Mexico, but they are a minority, why share power with Mexico, or for the Federal Union of the USA for that matter. States rights are going to matter by this time, and the Federal government will has less control, due to the massive debt.

The 50 largest cities in America will be controlled by black mayor and majority black city councils. There will be more blacks in public office and possibly a balck VP or a black President by 2028. Gays will be more than accepted in the political and social spectrum, top the point where a person's sexual preference is a non-issue (Praise Jesus!)

Hopefully, by 2024, 2028, a good woman will be the President of the USA.

The New Orleans Saints will be Super Bowl champs three years in a row. Jerry Rice is still playing wide receiver. Boston Red Socks will have lost their division 24 years in a row, calling it the "Curse of Kerry". David Lee Roth will be playing Vegas as an old lounge singer.

I also see 100-150 story affordable housing apartments for people by the year 2028, especially in the Far East. Television will have 500 channels, and there will be broadband internet, so anyone around the Earth can watch a broadcast from anywhere via a computer monitor. The television (as a machine) will be obsolete. Laugh. If I told people in 1980 that one day the typewriter will be obsolete, people would laugh. But now we have computers and word processors, nobody uses a typewriter. I also believe that the science of robotics will be clearly underway, and by the mid-century a wealthy child can play with an adorable robot dog that feels real, or may even have a robot servent serving him cookies and will read him a bedtime story before bed.

In 2028, technology will be wonderful, but only with those individuals who can pay for it. I am afraid that by 2028, there will be a great division between poor and wealthy in this country and worldwide, which may arise a new interest in socialism and communist thought.

POPULATION will be an issue for this generation. America will have 500 million people. There will be over 7 Billion people worldwide. China will hold the line on "One Child" policy, but will still have to fight with the growing world for food. China cannot grow all it needs and will have to import more and more from the USA. The USA will continue being the "breadbasket" of the Earth, but the farms will be mainly controlled by corporations living off of subsidies from the Federal government and profits on the world markets.

Political parties will remain the same until the USA teeters off a cliff, and then there will be a revolution, a fracturing of parties, or America will have more of a one party system with minor throw off parties who are merely farts in the wind. This party may be the merging of the Democratic and the Republican parties more or less joined together at the hip, being controlled by the wealthy and the special interest, and they will run candidates seperately but in  collusion to each other.

My generation (post baby boom) will have to pay for the Social Security of the post baby boom generation, a group of people that have lived throught the best economic and technological times in American and human history. Although some were killed in Vietnam (and I salute them), most could find work in the private sector and live a comfortable life. Our generation is poorer than theirs, but yet, we have to pay part of their retirement. I guess FDR thought that the succeeding generations were going to have more people and could support their elders.

I have said too much, but it gives you an idea of what i think future life and problems will be like.

Senor

Number one I see no reason why America would be faised out by the Europeans and Asians. The economies of Europe are crumbling they are dieing. Their population is ageing and their socialist infastructure is collapsing. Within 10 years one working Frenchmen will have to support 10 retirees. It is no better in Asia. Japan has been in recession for 15 years and doesn't appear to be coming out any time soon and if it does it may not every be back to its pre-1990 status. Asia is also ageing. Japan is becoming ancient and as I said before its economy is stagnant. China, which I consider a threat to America and to American power, may become a superpower but will be hindered by its dependency on an export market and a corrupt authoritarian regime that tightly controls the economy. The European Union dream of a Europe with one government seems further away every day as anti-EU forces continue to gain ground and old animocities have fired up. The EU constitution is likely to be rejected in quite a few countries, and is likely to be rejected in all countries that have a referendum. Your thought of a declining America is well thought out but unreal. Their is no major nation today that can take over America's place. China is still keeping a rather regionalistic stance on foreign policy while India is more focused on internal conflicts and Pakistan to be a major world power. While we can concider that some nations may be added to the list of Asian Tigers in the next 20 years I can't see any nation taking America's place in the world. A perdiction that I would like to make, though it may seem far fetched now, is that within 50-75 years Australia will become a major power. I see Australia as a new America that, I think, has the potential to take the place of America once, and if, we go into decline. I must also add that the Roman Republic lasted for 550 years and the Roman Empire after that lasted another 500 (and the Byzantine Empire lasted to 1453). So America may decline in the next 50-100 years or it may continue to dominate like Rome.
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« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2014, 09:04:34 PM »

Ops

10 years ago we were saying that the millenials were more conservative
Now we say that the millenials are more liberal

Are the millenials more conservative or more liberal?
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« Reply #90 on: July 24, 2014, 09:07:28 PM »

bumping a ten years old thread?
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« Reply #91 on: July 25, 2014, 01:29:43 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2014, 04:35:19 PM by sg0508 »

Summary of the Millennials:

1) They are poorer than generations past
2) They aren't as white
3) They are less educated
4) They tend to lack fiscal responsibility and overall care for it.  Many don't have a clue how to manage their finances.  Social platforms are their priority.
5) They feel entitled
6) They don't want to work as hard
7) They are very disloyal at work
Cool They are IT savy
9) There is a growing number who are/have grown up in "broken families".
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« Reply #92 on: July 25, 2014, 03:01:16 PM »

Summary of the Millenials:

1) They are poorer than generations past
2) They aren't as white
3) They are less educated
4) They tend to have fiscal responsibility and care for it.  Social platforms are their priority
5) They feel entitled
6) They don't want to work as hard
7) They are very disloyal at work
Cool They are IT savy
9) There is a growing number who are/have grown up in "broken families".
Less educated?

And I'm not sure about poorer... but definitely less employed.

Really disagree with 5, 6, 7.
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