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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2014, 12:56:33 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2014, 01:08:19 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2014, 01:13:35 PM by asexual trans victimologist »

I'm kind of surprised that the Pope is winning by such a massive landslide. I must be missing something, because I don't really get why he's so popular on this forum...

The Pope's politics--or the way he communicates the Magisterium's traditional politics--deviate from left-right orthodoxy in a way that gives him a lot of crossover appeal. He's perceived to be doing a good job so far cleaning up the Church and restoring its credibility and most leftists and old-school conservatives alike have reasons to approve of and like him. Cuomo's politics deviate from left-right orthodoxy, too, but in a way that just comes across as crass, tight-fisted, small-hearted, and self-absorbed. The only people who have any real reason to prefer Cuomo are hardcore market liberals and people who are single-issue about gay marriage and/or abortion. It's not that these are inherently invalid political positions to have, but I guess we turn out to have pretty few of them on this forum, in the latter case fewer even than I would have thought.
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2014, 01:22:00 PM »

I'm kind of surprised that the Pope is winning by such a massive landslide. I must be missing something, because I don't really get why he's so popular on this forum...

First noteworthy religious figure (as far as I can recall), who actually understands the New Testament.

He made one bone-headed statement about capitalism, but most people aren't going to weep for the asset class, if the church gives them a cheap shot every now and then.
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2014, 04:34:33 PM »

Cuomo.
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2014, 06:19:10 PM »

I'm catholic. Who do you think I would choose?

So is Andrew Cuomo.

lol

There aren't that many politician I'd quite say that for, but Cuomo...yeah.

I'm not sure I follow. Is Cuomo not catholic?

Cuomo's political views are antithetical to Catholicism.
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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2014, 08:43:08 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2014, 09:16:18 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2014, 09:45:59 PM »

I'm catholic. Who do you think I would choose?

So is Andrew Cuomo.

lol

There aren't that many politician I'd quite say that for, but Cuomo...yeah.

I'm not sure I follow. Is Cuomo not catholic?

Cuomo's political views are antithetical to Catholicism.

^^ That's part of it if course, but unlike most Catholic Dems who at the very least pretend to reconcile their political positions with their faith, Cuomo has unabashedly attacked the Church. Contrast him with someone like Nancy Pelosi, who although she's made her share of logical gymnastics to fit a few of her views with the Church, does outwardly work with the Church.

Also, Cuomo is divorced and openly cohabitating with his girl friend.
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2014, 10:17:49 PM »

Also, Cuomo is divorced and openly cohabitating with his girl friend.


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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2014, 10:38:39 PM »


lol I'm aware that statement sounded as though I'd just landed from Mars, but incidentally, there was something of a controversy over whether he should be permitted to receive communion, not over abortions (as is often the case with politicians), but for openly living with his girlfriend after divorce.
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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2014, 10:44:31 PM »

I'm catholic. Who do you think I would choose?

So is Andrew Cuomo.

lol

There aren't that many politician I'd quite say that for, but Cuomo...yeah.

I'm not sure I follow. Is Cuomo not catholic?

Cuomo's political views are antithetical to Catholicism.

^^ That's part of it if course, but unlike most Catholic Dems who at the very least pretend to reconcile their political positions with their faith, Cuomo has unabashedly attacked the Church. Contrast him with someone like Nancy Pelosi, who although she's made her share of logical gymnastics to fit a few of her views with the Church, does outwardly work with the Church.

Also, Cuomo is divorced and openly cohabitating with his girl friend.

>implication that Catholic Republicans don't also have to jump through hoops to justify some of their positions
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« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2014, 10:49:16 PM »

I'm catholic. Who do you think I would choose?

So is Andrew Cuomo.

lol

There aren't that many politician I'd quite say that for, but Cuomo...yeah.

I'm not sure I follow. Is Cuomo not catholic?

Cuomo's political views are antithetical to Catholicism.

^^ That's part of it if course, but unlike most Catholic Dems who at the very least pretend to reconcile their political positions with their faith, Cuomo has unabashedly attacked the Church. Contrast him with someone like Nancy Pelosi, who although she's made her share of logical gymnastics to fit a few of her views with the Church, does outwardly work with the Church.

Also, Cuomo is divorced and openly cohabitating with his girl friend.

>implication that Catholic Republicans don't also have to jump through hoops to justify some of their positions

They do, but the hoops tend to be larger and more forgiving once the most important one is cleared.
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« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2014, 11:11:37 PM »

I'm catholic. Who do you think I would choose?

So is Andrew Cuomo.

lol

There aren't that many politician I'd quite say that for, but Cuomo...yeah.

I'm not sure I follow. Is Cuomo not catholic?

Cuomo's political views are antithetical to Catholicism.

^^ That's part of it if course, but unlike most Catholic Dems who at the very least pretend to reconcile their political positions with their faith, Cuomo has unabashedly attacked the Church. Contrast him with someone like Nancy Pelosi, who although she's made her share of logical gymnastics to fit a few of her views with the Church, does outwardly work with the Church.

Also, Cuomo is divorced and openly cohabitating with his girl friend.

>implication that Catholic Republicans don't also have to jump through hoops to justify some of their positions

Oh yes, they certainly do. I'm having trouble finding one with the sort of belligerent anger of Cuomo though. Some on here have cited Paul Ryan as an example of a Republican who has taken heat for positions contrary to the Church's teachings at points, but he certainly has a good relationship with the local church leadership and outwardly maintains he believes in its teachings.
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« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2014, 10:46:51 PM »

I'm catholic. Who do you think I would choose?

So is Andrew Cuomo.

lol

There aren't that many politician I'd quite say that for, but Cuomo...yeah.

I'm not sure I follow. Is Cuomo not catholic?

Cuomo's political views are antithetical to Catholicism.

^^ That's part of it if course, but unlike most Catholic Dems who at the very least pretend to reconcile their political positions with their faith, Cuomo has unabashedly attacked the Church. Contrast him with someone like Nancy Pelosi, who although she's made her share of logical gymnastics to fit a few of her views with the Church, does outwardly work with the Church.

Also, Cuomo is divorced and openly cohabitating with his girl friend.

>implication that Catholic Republicans don't also have to jump through hoops to justify some of their positions

They do, but the hoops tend to be larger and more forgiving once the most important one is cleared.

Unless you're a pro-life Democrat like your's truly.
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