Poll: Capitalism dying?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

People being poor is obviously a flaw. You could argue that it's a flaw that would exist in any other system as well and perhaps even be worse or that it's a flaw that's in some way balanced out by benefits that necessitate it as a side-effect, but saying that it's not a flaw at all makes you sound like you care more about their markets as their own abstracted entities than about the actual people who have to live in and use them. Which is a horrible, disgusting way to think.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Poverty isn't a flaw of capitalism. Capitalism wasn't supposed to eradicate the poor class. No1 has ever said it was. If they did, they were misinformed. Capitalism is perfect because it consistently achieves it's goals.

I'm sorry, I thought you meant 'flawless' in some kind of moral or at least in some way normative sense. What are the goals of capitalism, as you understand them?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Capitalism is perfect because it consistently achieves it's goals.

I guess concentration camps were perfect too, then?

(yeah I know, Godwin point, whatever)

Boy, this got good. Show me the logical argument that claims perfection is moral

You didn't answer my question, but I take that as a yes.

You're unnecessarily loading moral baggage onto what he said. I don't know why.

I'm simply pointing out how ridiculously absurd this definition of "perfection" is, and using an extreme example to that purpose. I think my point would be clear enough to anyone who isn't either stupid or disingenuous.

Your point was bad because you created an illogical argument equating perfection and morality

If you didn't intend to make some kind of moral or at least normative point then why did you bring it up in the first place?