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Question: Who would you have voted for?
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Ulysses Grant (Republican)
 
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Horace Greeley (Democratic)
 
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Chalres O'Conor (Straight-Out Democrat)
 
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« on: July 30, 2014, 07:13:48 AM »

1808: 50.0% George Clinton
1816: 69.2% James Monroe
1820: 60.0% James Monroe
1828: 48.0% John Q. Adams
1844: 50.0% James Birney
1896: 32.5% John Palmer
1964: 49.2% Lyndon Johnson


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1872

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 08:42:50 AM »

The only real option here is Grant.

A vote for Greeley or O'Conor is a vote to turn the South back over to the white supremacist Democratic Party and destroy everything that the war was fought for. The only person capable of fighting the Klan and suppressing the enemies of the Republic is Grant, and that's who I would vote for.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 09:37:00 AM »

Probably Greeley at the time.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 11:14:27 AM »

Grant, enthusiastically.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 11:18:13 AM »


So you're pro-Klan?
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 11:36:22 AM »


His inclusion of "at the time" leads me to think his South Carolina residency is factored in as well. Not that such changes much, but, y'know.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 11:39:58 AM »


His inclusion of "at the time" leads me to think his South Carolina residency is factored in as well. Not that such changes much, but, y'know.

Give his '#Ready4Strom' username, I figure he'd be a traitor rightfully denied the right to vote.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 12:08:29 PM »

Grant (living in 2014)
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 12:17:56 PM »

Grant.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 12:20:17 PM »

Writing in Thomas A. Hendricks.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 12:52:16 PM »


His inclusion of "at the time" leads me to think his South Carolina residency is factored in as well. Not that such changes much, but, y'know.

The funny thing about that is SC was Grant's second best state, besides Vermont. He got 76% in SC, mostly due to the black majority that voted almost unanimously Grant, as well as disenfranchisement of some southern whites. I'm guessing though that southern whites voted mostly Greeley.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 12:57:12 PM »

Poor white-black cooperation in Southern Republican parties was still very high until the counterrevolution of the mid 1870s, so there's really no reason to assume that, at least white yeoman, wouldn't be voting for Grant, too. The Gentry had basically lost it's right to vote (as well it should have), but it would be interesting to find out how the white vote did split, given the empowerment of white yeoman and black freedmen by the radical Republican parties of the South at the time.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 01:29:21 PM »

Poor white-black cooperation in Southern Republican parties was still very high until the counterrevolution of the mid 1870s, so there's really no reason to assume that, at least white yeoman, wouldn't be voting for Grant, too. The Gentry had basically lost it's right to vote (as well it should have), but it would be interesting to find out how the white vote did split, given the empowerment of white yeoman and black freedmen by the radical Republican parties of the South at the time.

I did say mostly Greeley, not all. Looking at the numbers, and how black the state was at the time (59%), suggests that there was a lot of white people voting republican too. However, those same white people would also be disenfranchised later along with blacks.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 03:05:07 PM »

The only real option here is Grant.

A vote for Greeley or O'Conor is a vote to turn the South back over to the white supremacist Democratic Party and destroy everything that the war was fought for. The only person capable of fighting the Klan and suppressing the enemies of the Republic is Grant, and that's who I would vote for.

I vote Greeley, mostly out of sympathy for him. I think also you're confusing Greeley with Horatio Seymour. Seymour was a racist and white supremacist who not only hated blacks, but natives as well. Greeley was nothing of the sort. He was a Republican, the same as Grant and he was an early advocate of something I think you also keenly advocate, socialism. He broke with Grant mostly due to the scandals. On politics, they were fairly close. The Democrats supporting Greeley was a cruel irony, considering that he had spent years denouncing them.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2014, 03:07:26 PM »

The only real option here is Grant.

A vote for Greeley or O'Conor is a vote to turn the South back over to the white supremacist Democratic Party and destroy everything that the war was fought for. The only person capable of fighting the Klan and suppressing the enemies of the Republic is Grant, and that's who I would vote for.

I vote Greeley, mostly out of sympathy for him. I think also you're confusing Greeley with Horatio Seymour. Seymour was a racist and white supremacist who not only hated blacks, but natives as well. Greeley was nothing of the sort. He was a Republican, the same as Grant and he was an early advocate of something I think you also keenly advocate, socialism. He broke with Grant mostly due to the scandals. On politics, they were fairly close. The Democrats supporting Greeley was a cruel irony, considering that he had spent years denouncing them.
Greeley supported ending reconstruction, which would've ended up giving control of the south up to the KKK.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2014, 03:09:55 PM »

Grant. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2014, 03:13:06 PM »

The only real option here is Grant.

A vote for Greeley or O'Conor is a vote to turn the South back over to the white supremacist Democratic Party and destroy everything that the war was fought for. The only person capable of fighting the Klan and suppressing the enemies of the Republic is Grant, and that's who I would vote for.

I vote Greeley, mostly out of sympathy for him. I think also you're confusing Greeley with Horatio Seymour. Seymour was a racist and white supremacist who not only hated blacks, but natives as well. Greeley was nothing of the sort. He was a Republican, the same as Grant and he was an early advocate of something I think you also keenly advocate, socialism. He broke with Grant mostly due to the scandals. On politics, they were fairly close. The Democrats supporting Greeley was a cruel irony, considering that he had spent years denouncing them.
Greeley supported ending reconstruction, which would've ended up giving control of the south up to the KKK.

I didn't say he wasn't wrong on that. His reasons for wanting to end Reconstruction were more naive than racist. I think if he'd lived and been elected and seen the Klan taking a foothold, he probably would have sent federal troops back in. Greeley was more misguided on that than hostile. I believe that, especially since he had supported Grant in 1868 and was closely aligned with the radicals.

Like I said, I voted for him more out of sympathy than anything else. I knew Grant would be winning by a large margin.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2014, 03:25:01 PM »

Grant.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 03:58:17 PM »

The only real option here is Grant.

A vote for Greeley or O'Conor is a vote to turn the South back over to the white supremacist Democratic Party and destroy everything that the war was fought for. The only person capable of fighting the Klan and suppressing the enemies of the Republic is Grant, and that's who I would vote for.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 05:14:10 PM »


His inclusion of "at the time" leads me to think his South Carolina residency is factored in as well. Not that such changes much, but, y'know.

Give his '#Ready4Strom' username, I figure he'd be a traitor rightfully denied the right to vote.

Reconstruction was going particularly bad in South Carolina and their corrupt (the Redeemers exaggerated while minimizing their own, but there was definitely major corruption rampant in the Republican regimes) government was held up by Grant, I would suggest you actually take a look at the gang of people who were running the state during Reconstruction (of course Hampton and his people were little better, but that's life in postbellum SC). It was so corrupt and mismanaged that even some blacks cast in their lot with Hampton in 1876.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2014, 03:22:03 PM »

Grant!
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