Would you ever quit a job because your supervisor smoked pot?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Of course not. I've had more than one supervisor who did actually (and at least one division manager).

[Grumpier Than Thou]

lolno.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

No, but I tend to find people who do smoke pot to be way too proud of it and in your face about it, which means they are annoying.

[ElectionsGuy]

Why would I care? No

[H. Ross Peron]

No unless it was during working hours while he was operating dangerous machinery or something.

[J-Mann]

That all depends.

If the supervisor is in Colorado, Washington State or in any location where it can be purchased legally, then I have no problem if he / she is open about it.

If it's in a place where it is illegal to purchase it, then I wouldn't have a problem as long as I either a) didn't know, or b) found out but the supervisor was very discreet about it.

If the supervisor is doing it at work or allowing it to impact their work performance regardless of location, I would be against it.

If the supervisor is doing it in a state where it is illegal and, though not smoking at work, is being very open about it with staff, I would be against it.

Someone in a supervisory position of any kind should be setting an example, and whether they agree with the law or not, I would expect them to uphold it and, through that behavior, not encourage others to break it.

[Adam Griffin]

Option 3 (normal)

[MaxQue]

No, unless he is high during work and that it can cause safety issues (manipulating toxical products, driving me...)

[Joe Republic]

No, but I tend to find people who do smoke pot to be way too proud of it and in your face about it, which means they are annoying.

^

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Hell, I've had a foreman who smoked pot with one of my co-workers who I knew from school. I'm in no position to quit a job because of that, as I actually value my financial survival.

[TJ in Oregon]

That all depends.

If the supervisor is in Colorado, Washington State or in any location where it can be purchased legally, then I have no problem if he / she is open about it.

If it's in a place where it is illegal to purchase it, then I wouldn't have a problem as long as I either a) didn't know, or b) found out but the supervisor was very discreet about it.

If the supervisor is doing it at work or allowing it to impact their work performance regardless of location, I would be against it.

If the supervisor is doing it in a state where it is illegal and, though not smoking at work, is being very open about it with staff, I would be against it.

Someone in a supervisory position of any kind should be setting an example, and whether they agree with the law or not, I would expect them to uphold it and, through that behavior, not encourage others to break it.

I don't understand this logic. I mean, sure, it'd be nice to have a supervisor who sets a great moral example through their behavior, but would you actually quit if they didn't? Obviously if they put you in danger in some way, it would be a different story, but why can't one recognize they work for an imperfect boss and simply continue onward to give their best? Why must we only accept dealing with people we agree with?

[MaxQue]

A more interesting question would be if you would denounce him to try taking his place.

[J-Mann]

That all depends.

If the supervisor is in Colorado, Washington State or in any location where it can be purchased legally, then I have no problem if he / she is open about it.

If it's in a place where it is illegal to purchase it, then I wouldn't have a problem as long as I either a) didn't know, or b) found out but the supervisor was very discreet about it.

If the supervisor is doing it at work or allowing it to impact their work performance regardless of location, I would be against it.

If the supervisor is doing it in a state where it is illegal and, though not smoking at work, is being very open about it with staff, I would be against it.

Someone in a supervisory position of any kind should be setting an example, and whether they agree with the law or not, I would expect them to uphold it and, through that behavior, not encourage others to break it.

I don't understand this logic. I mean, sure, it'd be nice to have a supervisor who sets a great moral example through their behavior, but would you actually quit if they didn't? Obviously if they put you in danger in some way, it would be a different story, but why can't one recognize they work for an imperfect boss and simply continue onward to give their best? Why must we only accept dealing with people we agree with?

Quit? Probably not ... unless the behavior was unalterable and a disruption. I just feel that there is a difference between working for an imperfect boss and an imperfect boss who champions something illegal. I'm personally for legalization of marijuana, but since it's not right now, if I had a supervisor who was openly bragging about his pot use, I'd question his ethics and judgment in other situations.

Would you look the other way regarding other illegal activity if you knew about it?

 - My supervisor beats his wife and tells the office ... but that's none of my business. Hey, whaddya call a woman with two black eyes? Nothin'! Ya done told the b[itc]h twice already!

 - My supervisor downloaded several gigabytes of child porn and was arrested last week. He's out on bail and is heading back to work ... but who am I to judge his fetishes?

 - My supervisor has a side job smuggling heroin-filled condoms in his ass across the border; it's only a weekend thing, though. I'm sure he's on the up and up while he's here.

Yeah, I get it. Everybody thinks pot is no big deal. I've smoked more of it than probably most of this board. But until it's actually legalized, I'd rather someone in a supervisory or leadership position not be real flagrant about his or her partaking in it. Unless you're managing a bunch of zit-faced teenagers at Trader Joe's, the guy trying to be the "cool boss" by talking about how many bowls he smoked the night before is just an idiot.

[memphis]

No, but I tend to find people who do smoke pot to be way too proud of it and in your face about it, which means they are annoying.

^

Lots of people who drink are similarly proud. Dude, I got sooo wasted lasted night.

[TJ in Oregon]

Quit? Probably not ... unless the behavior was unalterable. I just feel that there is a difference between working for an imperfect boss and an imperfect boss who champions something illegal. I'm personally for legalization of marijuana, but since it's not right now, if I had a supervisor who was openly bragging about his pot use, I'd question his ethics and judgment in other situations.

Would you look the other way regarding other illegal activity if you knew about it?

 - My supervisor beats his wife and tells the office ... but that's none of my business. Hey, whaddya call a woman with two black eyes? Nothin'! Ya done told the b[itc]h twice already!

 - My supervisor downloaded several gigabytes of child porn and was arrested last week. He's out on bail and is heading back to work ... but who am I to judge his fetishes?

 - My supervisor has a side job smuggling heroin-filled condoms in his ass across the border; it's only a weekend thing, though. I'm sure he's on the up and up while he's here.

Yeah, I get it. Everybody thinks pot is no big deal. I've smoked more of it than probably most of this board. But until it's actually legalized, I'd rather someone in a supervisory or leadership position not be real flagrant about his or her partaking in it. Unless you're managing a bunch of zit-faced teenagers at Trader Joe's, the guy trying to be the "cool boss" by talking about how many bowls he smoked the night before is just an idiot.

The main difference between pot and those other examples you listed is that for the other examples you could call the police and they'd investigate. If you called the police and told them your supervisor is smoking pot, they might give you some lop service but there's really nothing they can do, absent catching him in possession. Even if you took pictures of your supervisor smoking pot the police aren't going to do anything with it.

Look, I'm with you here on smoking pot being something a supervisor shouldn't do; heck, I don't think anyone should do it. I have never smoked pot and never will. I also don't want it legalized. But that doesn't mean I'm going to quit my job over my boss doing it! Heck, if I was only willing to work for a boss who I approved of every moral decision of, I'd probably be unemployed for a long time.

[J-Mann]

Quit? Probably not ... unless the behavior was unalterable. I just feel that there is a difference between working for an imperfect boss and an imperfect boss who champions something illegal. I'm personally for legalization of marijuana, but since it's not right now, if I had a supervisor who was openly bragging about his pot use, I'd question his ethics and judgment in other situations.

Would you look the other way regarding other illegal activity if you knew about it?

 - My supervisor beats his wife and tells the office ... but that's none of my business. Hey, whaddya call a woman with two black eyes? Nothin'! Ya done told the b[itc]h twice already!

 - My supervisor downloaded several gigabytes of child porn and was arrested last week. He's out on bail and is heading back to work ... but who am I to judge his fetishes?

 - My supervisor has a side job smuggling heroin-filled condoms in his ass across the border; it's only a weekend thing, though. I'm sure he's on the up and up while he's here.

Yeah, I get it. Everybody thinks pot is no big deal. I've smoked more of it than probably most of this board. But until it's actually legalized, I'd rather someone in a supervisory or leadership position not be real flagrant about his or her partaking in it. Unless you're managing a bunch of zit-faced teenagers at Trader Joe's, the guy trying to be the "cool boss" by talking about how many bowls he smoked the night before is just an idiot.

The main difference between pot and those other examples you listed is that for the other examples you could call the police and they'd investigate. If you called the police and told them your supervisor is smoking pot, they might give you some lop service but there's really nothing they can do, absent catching him in possession. Even if you took pictures of your supervisor smoking pot the police aren't going to do anything with it.

Look, I'm with you here on smoking pot being something a supervisor shouldn't do; heck, I don't think anyone should do it. I have never smoked pot and never will. I also don't want it legalized. But that doesn't mean I'm going to quit my job over my boss doing it! Heck, if I was only willing to work for a boss who I approved of every moral decision of, I'd probably be unemployed for a long time.

It's not about approving of a moral decision. Personally, I don't give a f[uck] if someone smokes pot. Professionally, I do. Maybe I'm making too big of an assumption that the denizens of this forum have ambition beyond "just a paycheck," but I've worked for some tremendous supervisors in my past from whom I've had an opportunity to learn a great deal. None of them were taking part in anything illegal, regardless of scope, and if they were, they certainly weren't bragging to the troops about it. Someone who does ... not likely someone I want to work for.

As I said in the previous post, I probably wouldn't quit. I would either change his behavior myself or get someone higher up on the chain involved to do so; and if it continued and was a disruptive distraction that prevented me in any way from furthering my own career goals, I would leave.

Again, nothing to do with morals -- it's about professional judgment. Replace "pot" with "alcohol," and I probably would have a problem with a constant drunk, too. I've taken this answer far beyond a "yes" or "no," but my issues with it come down to workplace disruption and questionable ethics ... if a supervisor breaks a minor law and brags about it, what's he doing that he's not bragging about.

And also, again, if he keeps his mouth shut about it and doesn't let it disrupt the workplace, then I'd have no issue.

Although I think Jeff made a mistake in leaving his job as quickly as he did and missing out on another couple of weeks of pay, he was likely in not only a no-win scenario: no amount of complaints or concern would have changed the behavior of those around him, and the very fact that such behavior is allowed indicates how sh[itty] of a workplace it really was.

[TJ in Oregon]

Although I think Jeff made a mistake in leaving his job as quickly as he did and missing out on another couple of weeks of pay, he was likely in not only a no-win scenario: no amount of complaints or concern would have changed the behavior of those around him, and the very fact that such behavior is allowed indicates how sh[itty] of a workplace it really was.

Wait... this thread was about Bushie? I failed to recognize there was an actual scenario behind this hypothetical and was envisioning a supervisor who tells some employees he smokes pot at the water cooler one day, not some sort of major workplace disruption. I haven't read the Bushie thread in probably about a year and have no clue what he's up to. Nor do I really care either. If Bushie really cared to fix the issues he has in life, one of the very first things he'd do is stop posting about it on the internet and live life in the real world. If he doesn't, there are literally hundreds of things I'd rather do with my time than sift through that narcissistic drivel. And I'm not saying though out of some hipster-esq anger as a reaction against the social fad, I'm honestly ambivalent. I really don't care to know what Bushie does with his time.

[Joe Republic]

Although I think Jeff made a mistake in leaving his job as quickly as he did and missing out on another couple of weeks of pay, he was likely in not only a no-win scenario: no amount of complaints or concern would have changed the behavior of those around him, and the very fact that such behavior is allowed indicates how sh[itty] of a workplace it really was.

Wait... this thread was about Bushie? I failed to recognize there was an actual scenario behind this hypothetical and was envisioning a supervisor who tells some employees he smokes pot at the water cooler one day, not some sort of major workplace disruption. I haven't read the Bushie thread in probably about a year and have no clue what he's up to. Nor do I really care either. If Bushie really cared to fix the issues he has in life, one of the very first things he'd do is stop posting about it on the internet and live life in the real world. If he doesn't, there are literally hundreds of things I'd rather do with my time than sift through that narcissistic drivel. And I'm not saying though out of some hipster-esq anger as a reaction against the social fad, I'm honestly ambivalent. I really don't care to know what Bushie does with his time.

These days, generally half of the polls on the FC - you can spot them by the bizarre scenario they present - are inspired by Bushie's attempts to navigate through life like a blind drunk sailor on the bridge of a cruise liner.

[PiMp DaDdy FitzGerald]

While I applaud people with the moral standing to do this, I value my finances far too much to subject them to this ravaging.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

No, but I tend to find people who do smoke pot to be way too proud of it and in your face about it, which means they are annoying.

^

Very much agreed--and hopefully marijuana legalization does away with the worst excesses of stoner culture.

[Aliens]

It's not the best idea to smoke pot while working, but if it's during your free time after work, then it shouldn't matter.

[Vega]

I'm a manager at a warehouse, so maybe that influences my thoughts, but...

If it effected how they did their job? Yeah. But otherwise I don't care.

[TJ in Oregon]

Although I think Jeff made a mistake in leaving his job as quickly as he did and missing out on another couple of weeks of pay, he was likely in not only a no-win scenario: no amount of complaints or concern would have changed the behavior of those around him, and the very fact that such behavior is allowed indicates how sh[itty] of a workplace it really was.

Wait... this thread was about Bushie? I failed to recognize there was an actual scenario behind this hypothetical and was envisioning a supervisor who tells some employees he smokes pot at the water cooler one day, not some sort of major workplace disruption. I haven't read the Bushie thread in probably about a year and have no clue what he's up to. Nor do I really care either. If Bushie really cared to fix the issues he has in life, one of the very first things he'd do is stop posting about it on the internet and live life in the real world. If he doesn't, there are literally hundreds of things I'd rather do with my time than sift through that narcissistic drivel. And I'm not saying though out of some hipster-esq anger as a reaction against the social fad, I'm honestly ambivalent. I really don't care to know what Bushie does with his time.

These days, generally half of the polls on the FC - you can spot them by the bizarre scenario they present - are inspired by Bushie's attempts to navigate through life like a blind drunk sailor on the bridge of a cruise liner.

In my defense it is a BRTD poll, so a bizarre scenario doesn't necessarily raise red flags.

[Joe Republic]

Those are the other half of the polls on FC.