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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2014, 08:25:09 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2014, 09:59:54 AM »

I could add to the quote chain.

But yeah. If the Republicans shutting down the Government didn't "hand the Democrats the House", this won't.

It probably might have if the election was held the same month but unfortunately the ACA rollout took everyone's attention away once the new month had settled in...
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2014, 10:02:56 AM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

In any case, absurd that Republicans in swing districts that could be vulnerable in 2014 voted for this silly maneuver
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2014, 10:12:09 AM »

Massie is the congressman for my district. I guess he figured he's in enough electoral trouble that he didn't want to dig himself in deeper. On the other hand, his opponent hasn't done a shred of campaigning.
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2014, 10:23:27 AM »

Massie is the congressman for my district. I guess he figured he's in enough electoral trouble that he didn't want to dig himself in deeper. On the other hand, his opponent hasn't done a shred of campaigning.

Bandit, I'm curious.  If you were to give ratings for all of KY's congressional districts(Guthrie, Massie, Barr, Rogers, etc.), for 2014, what would your ratings be [as in, tossup, tilt R/D, lean R/D, etc.)

You seem rather optimistic for Dems this cycle.
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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2014, 10:33:50 AM »

Bandit, I'm curious.  If you were to give ratings for all of KY's congressional districts(Guthrie, Massie, Barr, Rogers, etc.), for 2014, what would your ratings be [as in, tossup, tilt R/D, lean R/D, etc.)

I'd put it about like so...

KY-1 - Lean R
KY-2 - Lean R
KY-3 - Solid D
KY 4 - Lean R (but it will become solid R if the Democrat doesn't start campaigning or move left)
KY 5 - Solid R
KY 6 - Lean D
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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2014, 11:19:09 AM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.
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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2014, 11:34:05 AM »

Bandit, I'm curious.  If you were to give ratings for all of KY's congressional districts(Guthrie, Massie, Barr, Rogers, etc.), for 2014, what would your ratings be [as in, tossup, tilt R/D, lean R/D, etc.)

I'd put it about like so...

KY-1 - Lean R
KY-2 - Lean R
KY-3 - Solid D
KY 4 - Lean R (but it will become solid R if the Democrat doesn't start campaigning or move left)
KY 5 - Solid R
KY 6 - Lean D

Not quite as unrealistic as I'd expected from you, but still unrealistic.  Your Lean R's I'd consider to be Solid R's and your Lean D to be a Lean R.  Kentucky 6 isn't totally unwinnable for the D's, but it'll need a strong candidate and a good Democratic year to do it.  Can't say if the former is the case, but it's doubtful that the latter will pertain.
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2014, 11:38:27 AM »

Not quite as unrealistic as I'd expected from you, but still unrealistic.

In my scenario, only one seat flips - and it's in Lexington.
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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2014, 12:20:09 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2014, 12:20:25 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Except Scott Garrett, who is pretty moderate.
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2014, 12:24:03 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Except Scott Garrett, who is pretty moderate.

Most of NJ's Republicans are pretty moderate by the standards of the Republican caucus (which is to say not actually all that moderate), but Garrett is basically a full-on Tea Partier.  He's easily the most conservative Congressman in the NYC metro.
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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2014, 01:35:17 PM »

Not quite as unrealistic as I'd expected from you, but still unrealistic.

In my scenario, only one seat flips - and it's in Lexington.

Granted, and while that flip is not impossible, I don't see it likely as you have it.
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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2014, 07:26:32 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Probably they believe that these provisions of the ACA are unconstitutional anyway, so they aren't going to sue the President for not enforcing them.
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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2014, 08:58:23 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Maybe not Jones, he isn't 100% crazy.
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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2014, 09:05:27 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Maybe not Jones, he isn't 100% crazy.

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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2014, 09:19:09 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Except Scott Garrett, who is pretty moderate.

Most of NJ's Republicans are pretty moderate by the standards of the Republican caucus (which is to say not actually all that moderate), but Garrett is basically a full-on Tea Partier.  He's easily the most conservative Congressman in the NYC metro.

Scott Garrett is beyond conservative. He's a principled conservative, and boy does he want you to know it. He is not afraid to be the lone "no" vote on otherwise unanimous bills, just to make a point about how conservative and principled a conservative should be.

He's a total mountain man. Literally, his original base is in the mountains of New Jersey.
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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2014, 10:30:19 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Maybe not Jones, he isn't 100% crazy.

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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2014, 10:59:07 PM »

Not a single Democrat voted for it
Only 5 Republicans voted nay.
NAY     R     Broun, Paul   GA 10th
NAY     R     Garrett, Scott   NJ 5th
NAY     R     Jones, Walter   NC 3rd
NAY     R     Massie, Thomas   KY 4th
NAY     R     Stockman, Steve   TX 36th

Because it doesn't go far enough?

Probably true for all of them actually.

Maybe not Jones, he isn't 100% crazy.

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Well, silly me for thinking that some Republican wasn't 100% crazy.

Jones is such an anomaly.
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