Study: 'Sovereign citizens' now more threatening to US than Islamic extremists
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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2014, 11:33:59 AM »

The article surmises that this has to do with Obama's race, and yet if one looks at the actual categories that are about race (skinheads, neo-nazis, anti-immigration, christian identity) they are at a slightly lower perceived threat from the Bush years.  I suppose the "sovereign citizen" rhetoric has been adopted as a justification by some of these groups, and so law enforcement and the media will tend to use it as a catch-all phrase even if the connection is tenuous.  

Sure. The different strands of "thought" used by the sovereigns are pretty broad and divergent. If you clicked the link I had you'll hear one talk about admiralty law, others talk about secret trust funds, the battle time us flag, with gold fringe vs the civil flag, use of the UCC. It does sort of seem that Sheraton Fourth Floor Conference Room College of Law permits ala carte course selection for a degree.

Fortunately only some have resorted to physical violence. Others engage in paper terrorism and try to big down courts and participants by filing "liens". Others are simply deluded and think they've taken the red pill out of the matrix and the rest of us haven't seen the truth yet. Most in my view are hopeless opportunists who want to try and get out of their obligations and will move on with the next scam as they learn of it.
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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2014, 09:12:24 PM »

Left-wingers have a long history of committing political atrocities that have resulted in the deaths of thousands to millions; from the Reign of Terror all the way up to the Cambodian Genocide.

Communism as a murderous ideology is also a dying ideology.

The Atlantic slave trade and the mistreatment of First Peoples of the Americas both killed millions -- and we hardly see those as a current threat of mass death. Christians are culpable for the Crusades, witch hunts, and the Inquisition. No Christian organization now endorses those.

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Extreme leftists have become irrelevant as genuine threats of mass murder.  Organized crime, which is difficult to place on the left-right continuum, is now far more likely to cause death than extreme leftists in America. Bloods? Crips? MS-13? Much more dangerous than old left-wing phantoms.   

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Hal Turner is a piece of work. Agents-provocateurs are untrustworthy as a rule. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2014, 04:33:05 AM »

Left-wingers have a long history of committing political atrocities that have resulted in the deaths of thousands to millions; from the Reign of Terror all the way up to the Cambodian Genocide.

You'll never hear about that from the left-wing, globalist mass media; though. Instead, they use a handful of isolated incidents (many of which have a high possibility of being false flag attacks) to make the claim that ''all right-wingers are potential terrorists'' while at the same time pretending that left-wingers never commit violent acts themselves.

Before you hit me with the usual response that I'm a crazy, extreme right-wing conspiracy theorist who needs to take his meds; take a look at Hal Turner. He's proof that the feds do, in fact, set people up to play the role of their political opponents and act aggressively so they can justify making moves against them. They even encouraged him to use violent rhetoric.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner#FBI_Informant

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2014, 01:03:36 PM »


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Hal Turner is a piece of work. Agents-provocateurs are untrustworthy as a rule. 

huh?

In any case, they've used the same tactics against Muslims.
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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2014, 11:48:19 AM »

The U.S. government is absolutely terrified to do anything about the Cliven Bundy lawbreaker types, because the Cliven Bundy lawbreaker types are armed to the teeth and eager to shoot.

Don't forget the "Cliven Bundy lawmaker types" (seriously what I initially read your post as...)
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