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Mr. Morden
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« on: August 11, 2014, 06:26:02 AM »

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but it looks like the US is now directly arming the Kurds:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/us-sending-arms-to-kurds-in-iraq-109901.html?hp=l4

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 12:18:21 AM »

Everyone is bombing ISIS:

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2014, 01:36:13 AM »

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/middle-east-in-turmoil/air-strikes-and-aid-provide-relief-for-the-iraqi-town-of-amirli/story-fn7ycml4-1227042833285?nk=c1d61c093b9c55a365ba90fda5af1f74

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 01:39:36 AM »

Australia will also supply arms to the Kurds:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-troops-to-deliver-arms-in-person-in-iraq-20140831-10amxx.html

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2014, 06:49:17 AM »

He's Hitler ideologically, not strategically.

Dear God, no.  Assad is a bloodthirsty dictator, but such a comparison is as absurd as calling ISIS "Islamofascist". I stated my opinion before; the misuse of certain words should be banned from Earth.

LOL at the idea that both Assad and ISIS are Hitler. Why is Hitler fighting with himself?

Assad is an economically conservative Hitler and ISIS is a socially conservative Hitler.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 01:34:50 AM »

So why doesn't Turkey want to help this Kurd village?

You could equally ask why doesn't the US or the UK or France want to help this Kurd village?  If it's going to take ground forces to save it, then why is it Turkey's responsibility alone to take care of it?
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2014, 04:00:39 AM »

So why doesn't Turkey want to help this Kurd village?

You could equally ask why doesn't the US or the UK or France want to help this Kurd village?  If it's going to take ground forces to save it, then why is it Turkey's responsibility alone to take care of it?


People ask about Turkey because it's very near of their border.

Exactly.  All the more reason why Turkey will be cautious about a ground invasion.  If things go badly, they can't just pack up and leave like the US could.  There's no reason for them to do a ground invasion on their own without help from allied countries.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2014, 07:21:31 AM »

They won't even let the allies operate on their soil,

I was going to say that they just reached a deal to let the allies launch air strikes from their soil.  That's what Susan Rice said yesterday.  But now I just saw that Turkey has denied this, so I don't know what's going on there.

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No.  Obviously, there are multitude of reasons, many of which we would consider bad.  For example, they committed to helping forces opposed to Assad, and now don't want to do Assad's dirty work for him.

The point is, the whole thing's kind of a mess.  Turkey getting engaged in a war along its border wouldn't necessarily just be limited to this one village.  Why?  Because this whole thing seems to involve the allies lurching from one crisis to the next.  The western powers say that they'll do air strikes, but rely on forces within Iraq and Syria to fight on the ground.  Then when a single Kurdish village on the Turkish border is threatened, they ask why Turkey isn't sending in ground forces.  Umm….since when were they abandoning the idea of just letting the forces within Iraq and Syria be the boots on the ground?  Then you've got France talking about wanting to set up a humanitarian corridor, with the US showing reluctance.  It doesn't sound like all the allies are on the same page.

So yeah, I wish Turkey would act too, but I can't really single them out for particular blame when none of the other allies is volunteering ground troops of their own.

Out of curiosity, are you suggesting that the US also commit combat troops to Syria, or would you stick with the Obama line of air power only?
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 01:07:53 AM »

Here's a good, lengthy discussion of Turkey and ISIS:

http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/31210
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2014, 06:07:54 AM »

Apparently the Iraqi army is so corrupt that many of the weapons supplied by the US just end up getting sold back to Islamic State fighters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/world/middleeast/graft-hobbles-iraqs-military-in-fighting-isis.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=2

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 02:44:01 AM »

Iran is bombing Islamic State in Iraq (but not in coordination with the US):

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30304723
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