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cinyc
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« on: August 07, 2014, 06:41:20 PM »

RIP ISIS freedom fighters who dared stand against the imperialism of Obushma. Sad

Yeah, let's root for the genocidal maniacs who are forcing civilians to convert to their brand of Islam or be killed.  That's freedom fighting, alright.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2014, 08:05:13 PM »

You people seriously see nothing wrong with the fact that we don't even know if we've actually launched a bombing campaign in a foreign country or not? If this actually happened, and the Pentagon is denying it and claiming that it didn't, that's...somewhat troubling.

Not really.  If it is an ongoing operation, the Pentagon might want to remain silent or deny that it is going on until our assets are safe out of the area.  You don't want to telegraph your military moves to the enemy.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2014, 08:23:36 PM »

You people seriously see nothing wrong with the fact that we don't even know if we've actually launched a bombing campaign in a foreign country or not? If this actually happened, and the Pentagon is denying it and claiming that it didn't, that's...somewhat troubling.

Not really.  If it is an ongoing operation, the Pentagon might want to remain silent or deny that it is going on until our assets are safe out of the area.  You don't want to telegraph your military moves to the enemy.
The American public has a right to know if we're engaged in warfare in a foreign country. Plus there's something called the Constitution.

Not immediately they don't.  Operational security comes first.  It always has.  And there is a current law that gives the President authority to engage in Iraq.  It has not been repealed.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 09:15:08 PM »

What about the fighters in ISIS? What about their moral conscience? I mean, if we can just declare ourselves the good guys, can't they?

That's moral relativistic nonsense.  ISIS can declare themselves the Queen of England, but it doesn't make them so.  Nobody who engages in mass genocide and forces conversions to their particular religion by the sword can claim the moral high ground in the 21st century.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 09:44:05 PM »

Ah, yes, Iraqi civilians living under ISIS occupation...what scum! I guess they're just all the same to people like you.

Please show me where I implied that.
They're the ones being killed by these bombings, so...

Says who?  ISIS is the target of these bombings, not civilians.  The civilians were chased up a mountain by ISIS fighters.  They are being killed by ISIS, not "these bombings".  It's not hard to differentiate between the people with guns on the bottom of the mountain and the civilians on top.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 10:39:03 PM »

Says who?  ISIS is the target of these bombings, not civilians.  The civilians were chased up a mountain by ISIS fighters.  They are being killed by ISIS, not "these bombings".  It's not hard to differentiate between the people with guns on the bottom of the mountain and the civilians on top.
The refugees on a top of a mountain was one incidence and that case only involved an aid drop. Generally, bombing towns is going to result in considerable civilian casualties.

Who says we are bombing towns?  Who says bombings can't be precision targeted at ISIS strongholds?  Who says there needs to be considerable civilian casualties when bombing?  There doesn't need to be.
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