Who will win the Hawaii Democratic Primary?

[Ebowed]

I have a feeling this is going to be a bad year for the Democratic party.  Hanabusa will manage to win, unfortunately.

[Never]

Making a prediction either way is difficult, but Schatz if Ige wins the gubernatorial nomination narrowly (less than 10 points), and Hanabusa if Ige wins by a large margin. For some reason, I'm still thinking Schatz will win.

[Panda Express]

Well, Hanabusa is slightly to the right of Schatz but I'm not sure it really counts as a primary challenge "from the right" when the primary between Schatz and Hanabusa has nothing to do with ideology.

[Miles]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

[Free Bird]

Schatz, yet narrowly.  He'll win with less than 52%.

LOL if they only senate incumbent defeated this cycle is a democrat

In any case, the 3 strongest primary challenges against incumbents (Schatz, Roberts, and Cochran) have all been from the right.

Wat

[Free Bird]

To continue what Sawx said, the undersampling of Asians will likely benefit Hanabusa due to the Inouye connection. Abercrombie is all but certain to lose, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if Schatz's connection to him drags him down too.

[Keystone Phil]

Well, Hanabusa is slightly to the right of Schatz but I'm not sure it really counts as a primary challenge "from the right" when the primary between Schatz and Hanabusa has nothing to do with ideology.

Well, yeah, she wasn't taking him on for that reason but it's still funny to think that a more conservative challenger to an incumbent might finally win a Senate primary...and it isn't a GOP primary.

[free my dawg]

Schatz, yet narrowly.  He'll win with less than 52%.

LOL if they only senate incumbent defeated this cycle is a democrat

In any case, the 3 strongest primary challenges against incumbents (Schatz, Roberts, and Cochran) have all been from the right.

Wat

Schatz is one of the most progressive Senators, and better on the environment, foreign policy, and civil liberties than his opponent. Hanabusa isn't a full-blown DINO, but she's closer to Generic D than a progressive. It took her until Inouye died to come around to Democratic pet issues like SSM, and despite ideology not being a factor, it's still a challenge from his right flank. Miles hit more of a nail on the head too - people are also pissed because they see Schatz as having a future in the party, while they see Hanabusa as a backbencher.

[Knives]

LOL at some people on here acting as if Hanabusa is mothering Rand Paul. Hanabusa is progressive, to deny it, is silly.

[Free Bird]

When are these results going to be called?

[TJ in Oregon]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

[Vega]

When are these results going to be called?

Whenever the first printout is released. Only 5 polling places are open, after that, than it will be released. It'll include all the early voting and 75% of the absentee votes.

[free my dawg]

LOL at some people on here acting as if Hanabusa is mothering Rand Paul. Hanabusa is progressive, to deny it, is silly.

Hanabusa is to the right of Schatz. She is about as progressive as your average Democrat is. That is all I said. These are facts.

[Miles]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

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Schatz, yet narrowly.  He'll win with less than 52%.

LOL if they only senate incumbent defeated this cycle is a democrat

In any case, the 3 strongest primary challenges against incumbents (Schatz, Roberts, and Cochran) have all been from the right.

Wat

Check, the voting records. She's significantly to the right of Schatz. That doesn't make her a total DINO, since Schatz is pretty liberal. Although ironically he's the conservative Senator from Hawaii by an insignificant amount.

[Free Bird]

Seems she's leading right now

[Vega]

Seems she's leading right now

We'll see if that holds up with the third print out.

[Free Bird]

Seems she's leading right now

We'll see if that holds up with the third print out.

Never brought up a good theory. If Abercrombie is completely decimated, Schatz is dragged down with him. I think we may see that since Neilly-boy was absolutely humiliated.

[IceSpear]

Hanabusa may be mildly to the right of Schatz, but realistically, they're going to be voting the same way on 99% of legislation. That's why even though I support Schatz, I won't really be upset if Hanabusa wins.

It's kind of like the Roberts/Wolf primary in Kansas, not a campaign based at all on ideology or voting record, but internal political divisions within the state and non political issues (i.e. Roberts' residence, Inouye's request, etc.)

[TJ in Oregon]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

Well, what is a "progressive issue"? An issue inspiring to "progressives", an issue the "progressive" side will likely win, a social issue, ... what exactly? And other than SSM, what is an example of another "progressive issue"?

[Flake]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

Well, what is a "progressive issue"? An issue inspiring to "progressives", an issue the "progressive" side will likely win, a social issue, ... what exactly? And other than SSM, what is an example of another "progressive issue"?

I'd imagine it's an issue that the left supports and the right opposes. Like marijuana legalization or (actual) immigration reform.

[Maxwell]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

Well, what is a "progressive issue"? An issue inspiring to "progressives", an issue the "progressive" side will likely win, a social issue, ... what exactly? And other than SSM, what is an example of another "progressive issue"?

I'd imagine it's an issue that the left supports and the right opposes. Like marijuana legalization or (actual) immigration reform.

I'll give you immigration reform, but pot legalization sort of bends the right-left spectrum. In general, yes, more lefties support it than righties, but there are plenty of right wingers who view pot legalization as not a big deal and should happen. And similarly, there are plenty of people like Patrick Kennedy on the left who think pot should remain illegal.

[ElectionsGuy]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

Well, what is a "progressive issue"? An issue inspiring to "progressives", an issue the "progressive" side will likely win, a social issue, ... what exactly? And other than SSM, what is an example of another "progressive issue"?

I'd imagine it's an issue that the left supports and the right opposes. Like marijuana legalization or (actual) immigration reform.

I'll give you immigration reform, but pot legalization sort of bends the right-left spectrum. In general, yes, more lefties support it than righties, but there are plenty of right wingers who view pot legalization as not a big deal and should happen. And similarly, there are plenty of people like Patrick Kennedy on the left who think pot should remain illegal.

I tend to think marijuana legalization will become a nanny state vs. anti-regulation thing sometime down the road, kind of like alcohol, cigarettes, and food. But as of right now ideology still has a good grip on that issue.

[GaussLaw]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

Well, what is a "progressive issue"? An issue inspiring to "progressives", an issue the "progressive" side will likely win, a social issue, ... what exactly? And other than SSM, what is an example of another "progressive issue"?

I'd imagine it's an issue that the left supports and the right opposes. Like marijuana legalization or (actual) immigration reform.

I'll give you immigration reform, but pot legalization sort of bends the right-left spectrum. In general, yes, more lefties support it than righties, but there are plenty of right wingers who view pot legalization as not a big deal and should happen. And similarly, there are plenty of people like Patrick Kennedy on the left who think pot should remain illegal.

I tend to think marijuana legalization will become a nanny state vs. anti-regulation thing sometime down the road, kind of like alcohol, cigarettes, and food. But as of right now ideology still has a good grip on that issue.

Indeed.  If marijuana is legalized, it will eventually switch from being a social issue to an economic issue.

The social issue/economic issue dichotomy can lead to some strange things, like Democrats wanting to legalize marijuana for 18 year olds but heavily restrict soda consumption.

[IceSpear]

^ As a Hanabusa supporter, the biggest criticism of her that I've heard is she's a follower, not a leader, on progressive issues (like SSM).

"progressive issues"? Is that what this sort of thing is called these days?

Er, dunno what you're trying to get at...That was the first phrase that I thought of.

Well, what is a "progressive issue"? An issue inspiring to "progressives", an issue the "progressive" side will likely win, a social issue, ... what exactly? And other than SSM, what is an example of another "progressive issue"?

I'd imagine it's an issue that the left supports and the right opposes. Like marijuana legalization or (actual) immigration reform.

I'll give you immigration reform, but pot legalization sort of bends the right-left spectrum. In general, yes, more lefties support it than righties, but there are plenty of right wingers who view pot legalization as not a big deal and should happen. And similarly, there are plenty of people like Patrick Kennedy on the left who think pot should remain illegal.

I tend to think marijuana legalization will become a nanny state vs. anti-regulation thing sometime down the road, kind of like alcohol, cigarettes, and food. But as of right now ideology still has a good grip on that issue.

Indeed.  If marijuana is legalized, it will eventually switch from being a social issue to an economic issue.

The social issue/economic issue dichotomy can lead to some strange things, like Democrats wanting to legalize marijuana for 18 year olds but heavily restrict soda consumption.

Bloomberg is a Democrat?