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« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2004, 06:25:55 PM »

I like that even in all that excessive imperialism, Thailand remains independent - just like it barely managed to do irl.
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« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2004, 08:23:46 PM »

Vaguely off topic... what font did you use for the names and the EV's?
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« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2004, 10:56:19 PM »

I love this TL! How can I make cool maps like yours?
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« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2004, 10:59:08 PM »

Yes I too am interested in how you make the maps. I've got a TL of my own in the works.
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« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2004, 04:14:46 PM »

Harry, this was one of the most fascinating "what if"-timelines I've ever seen. Great work.
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« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2004, 10:07:37 PM »

Basically I combined several maps.
The outline maps made by Scott Foresman are good.
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« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2004, 10:47:34 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2004, 11:52:10 AM by VP Harry »

PART FOUR:

1912{continued}—Northern Ireland is ceded to the Republic of Ireland.  The US takes all of Australia and New Zealand.  Though TR wants to annex the entire Pacific, Congress gives it up and it is divided between Germany and Japan.  Gran Colombia dissolves.  Colombia, Venezeula, Guyana, Suriname [a gift from the Netherlands], and Cayenne become US territories.
US Territories, as of August 1912:
N.America [8]—New Mexico, Arizona, Indian Territory, Lesser Antilles, Bahamas, British Honduras, Alaska, Northwest Territory [includes several districts]
S.America [5]—Colombia, Venezeula, Guyana, Suriname, Cayenne
Africa [14]—Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Gold Coast, American West Africa, American Equatorial Africa, Angola, Cape
East Pacific [8]—Siberia, Formosa, Philippines, Sabah, Indochina, Western Australia, Central Australia, Pershing [OTL Queensland, named after the American General fought against the British in the East Pacific], New South Wales, New Zealand
England [6]—Wales, Scotland, Wessex {SW England}, Anglia {England around London}, Northumbria {Northern England}, Mercia {central England}
Spain [4]—Leon {North Spain}, Aragon {Basque area}, Castile {Central Spain}, Cordoba {South Spain}
France [3]—Burgundy {SE France}, Aquitaine {SE France}, France {N France}

1912 {part 3—big year} People in Congress are uncomfortable with the idea of TR running for a forth term.  He decides to step down from the ticket and give it to VP Hiram Johnson, on the condition he will become Secretary of State.  The Progs pick Thomas Marshall as their VP.  William Jennings Bryan seeks the Conservative nomination for the fourth time and is D-nied.  Charles Evans Hughes wins the nomination, but capitalizes on Bryan’s popularity and picks him as his VP.  A key issue is whether and when to make the new possessions states.  This furor prevents Arizona or New Mexico from becoming states for the time being.  In the end, Johnson is victorious.  Side Note:  Eugene Debs, a Socialist, gathered 5% of the PV


1913—President Johnson is inaugurated.  He drafts the Johnson Plan for Statehood which states that:
A territory can become a state if it is no larger or smaller in population than any current state and when 50% of the population has sworn loyalty to the US.  New Mexico and Arizona apply to join the Union and are finally admitted.

1914—American West Africa applies to join the Union under the name Liberia.  President Johnson is hesitant, but TR encourages him.  Liberia becomes the 76th state in June.  In July a fire sweeps through Washington.  Remembering what happened to President Weaver 20 years before, President Johnson and VP Marshall are evacuated to separate locations.  Unfortunately, on the way, President Johnson’s train derails and he is permanently dismembered.  He doesn’t want to resign, but TR and Wilson come talk to him.  He “retires” with honor and severance pay, Marshall becomes president, and picks NJ Gov Woodrow Wilson to be his VP.  Some people believe that William Jennings Bryan started the original fire, but an investigation clears him of any wrongdoing.  This accusation effectively ends his career in politics.

1915—Tempers are running high in Spain/France/Britain.  President Marshall personally goes to Europe to calm them down, where is captured a huge militant mob.  The mob sends word that they’ve killed him [is it true?].  Wilson is inaugurated president {James Cox is VP}, and sends troops to personally make an example of the terrorists.  The crisis brings Europe together, actually, and now many support the US.  Unfortunately, no one can find President Marshall’s body . . .

1916—Wilson and Cox are renominated, and the Conservatives are getting desparate.  They turn to Nova Scotia governor Robert Borden for the presidency and Charles Fairbanks for VP.  Tired for years of Progressive rule, Wilson goes down in defeat to Borden.  Borden announces that he will continue to apply the Johnson Plan and even offers to make TR secretary of the Navy to promote bipartisan glee.

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« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2004, 10:52:34 PM »

Pretty cool!
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« Reply #83 on: April 18, 2004, 01:44:08 AM »

This eagle has got some seriously big wings Smiley

However, if I could indulge in a little suggestion. When you give Australian territories their statehood, could you give Victoria back its statehood. It's Australia's 2nd biggest state and it often gets into bickering matches with NSW so I can't see them living together so comfortably.
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« Reply #84 on: April 18, 2004, 02:24:18 AM »

go progressives!
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« Reply #85 on: April 18, 2004, 10:51:12 AM »
« Edited: April 18, 2004, 11:43:45 AM by VP Harry »

the world in late 1916
The 7 allied nations are shown.


{Sorry, the green for USA and gold for Netherlands looks similar--the Netherlands owns part of South Africa, Botsawana, and Indonesia Smiley }
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« Reply #86 on: April 18, 2004, 10:52:18 AM »

LOL, I don't understand quite why you had USA join the Triple Alliance.
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« Reply #87 on: April 18, 2004, 10:53:51 AM »
« Edited: April 18, 2004, 10:54:40 AM by VP Harry »

LOL, I don't understand quite why you had USA join the Triple Alliance.

France and Britain don't like them.  Germany has amibiton, as the US does.  Seems a good fit.  I haven't yet decided whether to have Hitler rise in the 1930's and if so what to do with him.

Also, I included a real Canadian Prime Minister as a US president.
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« Reply #88 on: April 18, 2004, 11:59:04 AM »

Not realistic but nice
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« Reply #89 on: April 18, 2004, 12:36:18 PM »

Bi-partisan glee!
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« Reply #90 on: April 18, 2004, 02:04:28 PM »

A preview of the next 20 years:

What happens when the strong US has a land border on Russia and the Bolshevik revolution occurs?
Will TR become president ever again?
How will the US deal with Hitler?
Can six constitutional amendments be passed in a peiod of four years?
and finally, What exactly happened to Thomas Marshall?

these questions will likely be answered in Part Five.  You may speculate on this thread.
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« Reply #91 on: April 18, 2004, 02:15:07 PM »

Sure, TR'll be president. I say, get Hitler and make Germany, along with Eastern Europe, part of the empire!!!
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« Reply #92 on: April 18, 2004, 04:33:09 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2004, 04:33:22 PM by ilikeveriñ »

Thomas Marshall was brainwashed and now is a French seperatist!

Vive la France!
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« Reply #93 on: April 18, 2004, 09:44:03 PM »

I wonder if the Conservative's will ever crack the Progressive hold on Central America?
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« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2004, 10:04:09 PM »

I wonder if the Conservative's will ever crack the Progressive hold on Central America?

Probably will take a regional issue or a conservative from the area to do so.
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« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2004, 02:09:27 AM »

I wonder if the Conservative's will ever crack the Progressive hold on Central America?
never! Wink
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« Reply #96 on: April 19, 2004, 03:50:38 PM »

I wonder if the Conservative's will ever crack the Progressive hold on Central America?
never! Wink

I knew that you Mr. Dunn would not want the Progressives to lose power Smiley
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« Reply #97 on: April 19, 2004, 03:51:52 PM »

I wonder if the Conservative's will ever crack the Progressive hold on Central America?
never! Wink

I knew that you Mr. Dunn would not want the Progressives to lose power Smiley
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« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2004, 09:10:37 PM »

Here is part Five:

1917—President Borden inaugurated.
The United States, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Belgium, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Japan extend their alliance to include Quebec, Brazil, and Argentina.  These nations form the Tenfold Alliance.  
President Borden proposes that the British, French, and Spanish royal families and extreme nationalists can go to Bermuda and congregate there, and Bermuda can become an independent nation.  Congress passes this.  The 17th amendment, calling for direct election of Senators goes into effect.
The Bolshevik Revolution begins in Russia.  Borden discreetly backs the White Army.  The Communists take power.

1918—Argentina annexes Uruguay and Chile.  To protect against Argentine expansion, Peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, and Bolivia form the United South American Republic.  Liberia is the 57th state to ratify the 18th amendment granting Congress the power to have an income tax.  The amendment goes into effect.  President Borden calls for a 19th amendment granting women the right to vote.  A proposed amendment for the prohibition of alcohol is defeated in Congress.  VP Fairbanks dies and President Borden chooses Secretary of Agriculture Herbert Hoover as his new VP.  Refugees begin spilling into Siberia territory.

1919—Pro-women’s suffrage Congressmen admit New Zealand and Pershing as states to get more support for the 19th amendment, which is close to passing.  The inhabitants of Pershing, though, not wanting to be named after a man who conquered them, ask to have the name changed back to Queensland, and Congress obliges.  With bipartisan support, the amendment passes and goes into effect by the end of the year.

1920—The Progressives nominate James Cox and Franklin D. Roosevelt to bring popular president Borden down.  They are doomed though, as strong Socialist candidate Eugene Debs takes much steam away from their ticket, lodging an impressive win of Minnesota, and Borden is reelected in a landslide.


1921—President Borden gets word of corrupt people in his administration from Sec. of the Navy Theodore Roosevelt {he’ll never be out of the limelight . . . Smiley }  Borden fires all of them immediately and his popularity shoots up again.  He releases Eugene Debs from prison on December 25.  Siberia Territory is divided into three territories, each with several hundred thousand [many illegal] people:  Kamchatka, Pendleton [the southern part], and Siberia [the rest].

1922—Police in Paris capture several leaders of the terrorist group LIBERATE, responsible for acts of terror throughout Spain, France, and Britain ever since American annexation.  The terrorists kill themselves soon, but not before they allude to having several prisons somewhere off the coast of Scotland.
Aberdeen police do find one holding cell in December and release four men the terrorists had captured.  The terrorists there burned most of their documents, but one mentions “Prisoner A” as a top priority who must never be allowed to go free.

1923—President Borden, Sec. of the Navy Roosevelt, and political activist Debs, leaders of the three major political parties, together release a document condemning forever all acts of terror.  All three agree upon having members of the US Army and Navy scour Scotland, searching for any terrorist prison.  They find five such prisons, one of which “Prisoner A” was in for several years.  One search mission to a small obscure island of Scotland’s coast is commanded by Capt. Harry Truman.  They don’t really expect to find anything, but as soon as they land on the island, they are attacked by men with prominent LIBERATE insignia.  After the skirmish, they come across “the big one,” the largest of all prisons.  The men scour the prison, releasing various captive Pro-Americans, yet they find no sign of “Prisoner A.”  When personally examining the prison, Col. Truman notices a strange crack in the wall.  He puts his hand up to it and a hidden door opens, and who does he see but a near-death malnourished Thomas Marshall, held captive by LIBERATE for eight years.  Marshall gives him info on the rest of LIBERATE’s camps and returns to the US a hero.  President Borden gives Marshall a huge welcome in DC and holds a banquet in his honor.

1924—The election of 1924 heats up early in the year.  Debs declines to run again, and the Socialist party suffers greatly.  Many Progressives want to nominate Thomas Marshall to play off his popularity, but he declines, saying he’s not yet fit for such a job.  Theodore Roosevelt receives votes even though he says he’s not interested in the job.  TR endorses Wisconsin governor Robert LaFollette, who receives the nomination along with Burton Wheeler of Montana {he does take Marshall for his VP candidate, which helps him get some votes}.  Borden/Hoover run for a third term.  On election night, unfortunately, it ends up a 375-375 tie.  Despite the fact that LaFollette won more states, Conservative representatives go against the way their state voted and elect Borden to a third term.  Angry Progressives start a riot, but a notice from LaFollette, Wheeler, TR, H.Johnson, Marshall, and other prominent progressives condemn such riots.  They stop mostly, but many progressives are still very angry.


1925—Robert Borden is sworn in his third term.  Tempers are high, but the inauguration goes without incident.  Borden takes LaFollete onto his cabinet to cool some heads.  Adolf Hitler is rejected by Vienna’s art school.

1926—The state of Keewatin is admitted by the Conservative-dominated Congress.  President Borden proposes admitting several new states, but the Conservative-dominated Congress declines.  In the midterm elections, the Progressives retake both houses.  Tasmania [but not the rest of NSW] and Colombia [only northern part] become states.  Southern Colombia becomes the territory of Meta.

1927—President Borden signs the European Statehood Initiative, calling for the twelve European territories to become states by 1935.  Some progressives try to pass a bill barring President Borden from running for a fourth term, but it fails.
The European Nationalists on Bermuda declare themselves the Kingdoms of Bermuda and ally themselves with Russia and Italy.

1928—President Borden retires.  Herbert Hoover and Charles Dawes receive the nomination for the presidency.  The Progressives nominate Gov. Al Smith (NY) and Burton Wheeler of MT.  Norman Thomas tries to lead the Socialist Party, but flounders as he is unable to inspire many people.  The election is almost a repeat of 1924, with only IL switching sides, but that is enough for Hoover to win outright.


1929—Hoover is inaugurated.  The stock market crashes in October.  The Great Depression begins, but it is not as serious as OTL.

1930—Hoover starts the Transplantation Initiative, calling for people to move around in the US, getting the economy rolling and people moving.  He also takes similar measures as he did in OTL.

1931—Despite Hoover doing his best and the GD not being his fault, he is very unpopular.  “Hoovervilles” spring up around the country.  He is especially unpopular in Europe and the almost-defeated LIBERATE and similar less violent organizations spring up.

1932—The Progressives nominate the 74-year-old Theodore Roosevelt without his campaigning for the nomination.  He promises to only serve one more term and to get the ball rolling to success.  He chooses his cousin Franklin D. Roosevelt as his VP.  Hoover and Curtis are renominated, but most everyone knows there is no chance.  People need a scapegoat, and TR is elected yet again to the presidency.


1933—Theodore Roosevelt becomes president again, nearly 40 years after the first time he was president.  He begins with the “Hundred Days” of new reforms and launches the “New Deal.”  


A list of presidents

Presidents:
1. George Washington, 1789-1797, F
2. John Adams, 1797-1801, F
3. Thomas Jefferson, 1801-1809, DR
4. James Madison, 1809-1817, DR
5. James Monroe, 1817-1825, DR
6. John Quincy Adams, 1825-1829, NR
7. Andrew Jackson, 1829-1837, D
8. Martin Van Buren, 1837-1841, D
9. William H. Harrison, 1841, W—died of pneumonia
10. John Tyler, 1841-1845, W
11. James K. Polk, 1845-1851, D—died of cholera
12. George Dallas, 1851-1853, D
13. Franklin Pierce, 1853-1861, D
14. James Gadsden, 1861-1865, D
15. Stephen Douglas, 1865-1866, D—assassinated by Southern sympathizer
16. George Pendleton, 1866-1869, D
17. Horace Greeley, 1869-1875, R—retires due to poor health, dies in late 1875
18. Schuyler Colfax, 1875-1877, R
19. Samuel Tilden, 1877-1881, D
20. James Garfield, 1881, R—assassinated by disgruntled office seeker
21. Chester Arthur, 1881-1885, R
22. Thomas Hendricks, 1885, D—dies from strange disease
23. Grover Cleveland, 1885-1893, D
24. James Weaver, 1893-1894, Pop—dies in an unfortunate huge fire
25. Theodore Roosevelt, 1894-1905, Pop/Prog
26. William Taft, 1905-1909, Prog
27. Theodore Roosevelt, 1909-1913 Prog
28. Hiram Johnson, 1913-1914, Prog—retires after being permanently dismembered in a train wreck
29. Thomas Marshall, 1914-1915, Prog—captured by terrorists and presumed dead
30. Woodrow Wilson, 1915-1917, Prog
31. Robert Borden, 1917-1929, Cons
32. Herbert Hoover, 1929-1933, Cons
33. Theodore Roosevelt, 1933-, Prog
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« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2004, 03:13:03 AM »

Yeah baby, progressive keep rule
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