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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2014, 11:56:02 AM »

McGovern, no f***ing contest.
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2014, 02:36:03 PM »

And McGovern wins this election, with over 60% of the votes!
(too bad that wasn't the result for his presidential election!)
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 02:44:59 PM »

lol @ judging 1950s/60s politicians by 2010s standards.
Yes, because opposing concentration camps is a new idea and we shouldn't condemn people pre-2010 for supporting them.

Citation needed. I'm aware Humphrey supported banning the American Communist Party briefly during the 1950s but that isn't exactly equivalent to throwing them into KZs.
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2014, 02:59:57 PM »

lol @ judging 1950s/60s politicians by 2010s standards.
Yes, because opposing concentration camps is a new idea and we shouldn't condemn people pre-2010 for supporting them.

Citation needed. I'm aware Humphrey supported banning the American Communist Party briefly during the 1950s but that isn't exactly equivalent to throwing them into KZs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Humphrey
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2014, 03:29:07 PM »

Humphrey.
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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2014, 04:11:13 PM »

lol @ judging 1950s/60s politicians by 2010s standards.
Yes, because opposing concentration camps is a new idea and we shouldn't condemn people pre-2010 for supporting them.

Citation needed. I'm aware Humphrey supported banning the American Communist Party briefly during the 1950s but that isn't exactly equivalent to throwing them into KZs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Humphrey
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The citation of that "fact" is from Mises.org:  http://www.mises.org/daily/1842
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2014, 06:29:31 PM »

Hubert Humphrey is a treacherous, gutless old ward-heeler who should be put in a goddamn bottle and sent out with the Japanese current.

Buhbuhbuhbut muh Civil Rights!
"Why can't you ing darkies understand this guy who championed your rights from the beginning is terrible because he doesn't agree with me on my pet issue?!"

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2014, 06:44:42 PM »

Hubert Humphrey is a treacherous, gutless old ward-heeler who should be put in a goddamn bottle and sent out with the Japanese current.

Buhbuhbuhbut muh Civil Rights!
"Why can't you ing darkies understand this guy who championed your rights from the beginning is terrible because he doesn't agree with me on my pet issue?!"



But...but...but... muh True Leftism
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2014, 08:19:02 PM »

Hubert Humphrey is a treacherous, gutless old ward-heeler who should be put in a goddamn bottle and sent out with the Japanese current.

Buhbuhbuhbut muh Civil Rights!
"Why can't you ing darkies understand this guy who championed your rights from the beginning is terrible because he doesn't agree with me on my pet issue?!"


Yes, my pet issue of not wanting to be sent to a concentration camp.
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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2014, 06:47:47 PM »

Humphrey, and it's not really close.  I was certainly pro-McGovern in 1972, and knowing what I have recently learned, Nixon was a traitor for interfering in the peace process in 1968, but McGovern and his McGovernites ruined the Democratic Party in ways that reverberate even today.

All our politics are about social issues now.  LGBT stuff.  Abortion.  Church and State issues.  Affirmative Action.  Racial quotas.  Immigration.  All of this is designed to take our eyes of the issue of the gross concentration of wealth in the top 1% of persons.  And it was the McGovernites that started this.  Their circus of a 1972 convention made liberalism disreputable by making it appear irresponsible.  They alienated organized labor in a way that ended up crippling the labor movement while ramping up globalism, in which today's liberals have partnered with establishment Republicans.  The McGovernites did their part to get all discussion of economic inequality dismissed as "class warfare".  The Democratic party is still reeling from the specific way about the way McGovern effectively destroyed the National Democratic Party.  It's been put back together in a way that is unable to seriously take the needed actions to maintain the middle class, but, hey, we have same-sex marriage in some states.  Somehow, I don't see this as a great tradeoff.
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