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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 11:27:19 PM »

Yay Oregon.  I wish we had this everywhere in the nation.
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2015, 07:37:30 AM »

Oregon was one of the few states where democrats gained some seats. Glad to see it has served Cheesy.
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2015, 06:26:25 PM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

This proposal just makes voting there and ready to those who didn't register before. Most of the people who don't care still won't vote. Its not like its mandatory voting.
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2015, 08:37:38 AM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

This proposal just makes voting there and ready to those who didn't register before. Most of the people who don't care still won't vote. Its not like its mandatory voting.

The benefit of well-realised automatic voter registration is that it allows all people to vote in the election, unlike the personal voter registration system:

* Under AVR, people who decide to vote only in the final days because of a late game-changing event will be allowed to vote as well.

* Under PVR, there's a cutoff date (often a month or so ahead of the election) and late-deciders are not allowed to vote. Unless there's election day registration ...

As you can see, AVR is vastly superior and that's why it is used in all major developed countries.
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2015, 09:01:23 AM »

The thing is that people who don't vote probably shouldn't vote

In a democracy, you don't get to decide who should or should not vote.
That's not what im saying, what im saying is that people who can but choose not to register to vote are almost always the most uninformed in society and we should not feel the need to encourage them to alter our government if they already have made it clear that they don't care

This proposal just makes voting there and ready to those who didn't register before. Most of the people who don't care still won't vote. Its not like its mandatory voting.

The benefit of well-realised automatic voter registration is that it allows all people to vote in the election, unlike the personal voter registration system:

* Under AVR, people who decide to vote only in the final days because of a late game-changing event will be allowed to vote as well.

* Under PVR, there's a cutoff date (often a month or so ahead of the election) and late-deciders are not allowed to vote. Unless there's election day registration ...

As you can see, AVR is vastly superior and that's why it is used in all major developed countries.

Plus Oregon has exclusive voting by mail. Mix that with AVR and every single eligible adult in the system will get a ballot sent to them, meaning there could be thousands of more ballots sent in.
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2015, 09:05:19 AM »

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Oregon's new law is a 1st step in the right direction, but still far away from European style automatic voter registration systems, which basically really register 99.99% of all eligible people to vote.

The Oregon law is only based on driver license records, but not every person in the US has a driver license. Which further means there are still thousands of people left unregistered, for example the poor or disabled.
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2015, 09:25:08 AM »

Oregon's new law is a 1st step in the right direction, but still far away from European style automatic voter registration systems, which basically really register 99.99% of all eligible people to vote.

Even in Europe, I think there's some variation between country. In France, estimates hold that nearly 10% of the eligible population remains unregistered.
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2015, 09:36:52 AM »

Oregon's new law is a 1st step in the right direction, but still far away from European style automatic voter registration systems, which basically really register 99.99% of all eligible people to vote.

Even in Europe, I think there's some variation between country. In France, estimates hold that nearly 10% of the eligible population remains unregistered.

Are you sure ?

10% seems pretty high for France.

Do you have any links ?
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2015, 09:59:59 AM »

Oregon's new law is a 1st step in the right direction, but still far away from European style automatic voter registration systems, which basically really register 99.99% of all eligible people to vote.

Even in Europe, I think there's some variation between country. In France, estimates hold that nearly 10% of the eligible population remains unregistered.

Are you sure ?

10% seems pretty high for France.

Do you have any links ?

I don't have links unfortunately, but I remember one of my professors told us that in a class last year. I was pretty surprised to find out.

I guess this might have something to do with the fact that we only introduced AVR in the late 1990s. If so, this share is bound to decline over the next decades.
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