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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2014, 11:46:10 PM »

Advice from Gaza.

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2014, 12:52:26 AM »

Yeah, I've been following this story with morbid horror since the weekend.  This is a situation where the epithet "pigs" is, in fact, appropriate.

And I don't say that lightly.

Nor do I, yet I agree with you.  The officer should at the very least be charged with manslaughter and quite possibly murder.  Plus the SWAT team style coverage of the protests has if anything inflamed the situation beyond what it otherwise would have been.  Given what has happened, I think the wise thing to do would be to fire the entire Fergusson police department and hire new cops, starting with a new chief who could be acceptable to the majority of residents. (Note, I wouldn't be opposed to hiring back some of the old cops, if they haven't been acting in a excremental manner towards the people they are supposed to be protecting.)
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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2014, 12:55:20 AM »

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2014, 01:10:48 AM »

Not only have police arrested journalists, but they also fired tear gas directly at them.

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2014, 01:30:35 AM »

You seem excited.
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2014, 01:47:47 AM »

Operators have been answering the phone, directing racial slurs at those asking what is going on, and hanging up.
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2014, 02:06:56 AM »

Operators have been answering the phone, directing racial slurs at those asking what is going on, and hanging up.

Is there a source to verify this? As horrible as its gone, the optimist in me is inclined to believe that things haven't gotten this bad.
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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2014, 02:11:41 AM »

Operators have been answering the phone, directing racial slurs at those asking what is going on, and hanging up.

Is there a source to verify this? As horrible as its gone, the optimist in me is inclined to believe that things haven't gotten this bad.

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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2014, 02:17:17 AM »

Lets try again, is their a source for this that is:
A.a real source
B.in English
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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2014, 02:18:26 AM »

The real question wasn't asked here yet.

What is Jay Nixon doing?! It's his job to manage that!
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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2014, 02:31:04 AM »

The real question wasn't asked here yet.

What is Jay Nixon doing?! It's his job to manage that!
You want him to call in the NG to stop the rioters?  I'm not sure that would help deescalate the situation.
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2014, 02:48:20 AM »

Lets try again, is their a source for this that is:
A.a real source
B.in English

Let me get this straight

You want me to find a news article about how black people are being racially attacked while calling the Ferguson Police.

Alright.
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2014, 02:52:47 AM »

The real question wasn't asked here yet.

What is Jay Nixon doing?! It's his job to manage that!
You want him to call in the NG to stop the rioters?  I'm not sure that would help deescalate the situation.
How about calling in the NG to stop the Ferguson police?
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2014, 03:01:22 AM »

The real question wasn't asked here yet.

What is Jay Nixon doing?! It's his job to manage that!
You want him to call in the NG to stop the rioters?  I'm not sure that would help deescalate the situation.

No, to stop the Ferguson police.
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2014, 03:02:02 AM »

Lets try again, is their a source for this that is:
A.a real source
B.in English

Let me get this straight

You want me to find a news article about how black people are being racially attacked while calling the Ferguson Police.

Alright.
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The real question wasn't asked here yet.

What is Jay Nixon doing?! It's his job to manage that!
You want him to call in the NG to stop the rioters?  I'm not sure that would help deescalate the situation.
How about calling in the NG to stop the Ferguson police?
That would be interesting...seems unlikely though.
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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2014, 04:51:16 AM »

Why do you arm your police again?
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2014, 06:12:58 AM »


Apparently to keep the blacks in their place.
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2014, 08:14:27 AM »


Or shoot the ones wont' keep their place - like black guys in toy aisle in Walmart.
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2014, 08:16:12 AM »

I'm concerned about the President's ability to respond. I recall how when the news about Trayvon's killing first broke, there was a general sense of outrage at what happened. When President Obama made a statement about how Trayvon could have been his son, suddenly it became a political issue and a very large number of people swung behind Zimmerman as a folk hero and criticizing Trayvon as a "thug."
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2014, 08:31:41 AM »

Lets try again, is their a source for this that is:
A.a real source
B.in English

Let me get this straight

You want me to find a news article about how black people are being racially attacked while calling the Ferguson Police.

Alright.

Yes.

You literally posted screen caps of two random people on Twitter - with no verifiable way to know that it is factual. Who are these people? Perhaps that's why there's no news articles on it, as this story would certainly be a boon for media outlets and even independent bloggers, especially outlets like Gawker. I'm assuming you aren't that dense that you don't realize how much complete bullsh**t is posted by random people on the internet on a daily basis. No one with a modicum of journalistic or intellectual integrity will run with this story until there's a better source.

So yes, please find some real links, as the potential that such a situation could occur (where apparently there is such a history of these types of things) is extremely worrying.
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2014, 08:50:51 AM »

It seems like it would be stupid easy to prove one way or the other too....hell, you, I or even R2 could pick up the phone and make the call and see how they act.  Hell, do your best "black" voice for effect.
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2014, 09:18:25 AM »

I'm concerned about the President's ability to respond. I recall how when the news about Trayvon's killing first broke, there was a general sense of outrage at what happened. When President Obama made a statement about how Trayvon could have been his son, suddenly it became a political issue and a very large number of people swung behind Zimmerman as a folk hero and criticizing Trayvon as a "thug."

I am too. I fully expect most Republicans to support the cop in a few weeks.
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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2014, 09:59:13 AM »
« Edited: August 14, 2014, 10:00:59 AM by Paul Kemp »

Anonymous apparently releases name of the officer who shot Brown. It's not in the article but it's easy to find, if you're interested.

St. Louis County Police are being taken "out of the situation."
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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2014, 10:04:23 AM »

Don't ignore the systemic inequality around this. The Michael Brown incident is merely what caused social tensions in Ferguson to boil over.
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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2014, 10:26:09 AM »

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