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« Reply #225 on: August 18, 2014, 09:58:04 PM »
« edited: August 18, 2014, 10:08:50 PM by RIP ESKIMO JOE'S »

Unfortunately, Obama needs to steer clear of this. The day he spoke out about Trayvon Martin was that George Zimmerman became a hero to most Republicans. We don't need that again.

I'm sure the cop who shot the kid and the cops shooting rubber bullets into crowds of protestors are already heroes to most Republicans regardless of what Obama does or doesn't do.
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« Reply #226 on: August 18, 2014, 10:04:04 PM »

Possibly and they are just as wrong as the people on the other side that knew the cops were murderers before the evidence was in.
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« Reply #227 on: August 18, 2014, 10:13:37 PM »

We've known from the beginning that Brown was 35 feet away and unarmed when the cop shot him multiple times. The cop's a murder.
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« Reply #228 on: August 18, 2014, 10:53:52 PM »

Unfortunately, Obama needs to steer clear of this. The day he spoke out about Trayvon Martin was that George Zimmerman became a hero to most Republicans. We don't need that again.

I'm sure the cop who shot the kid and the cops shooting rubber bullets into crowds of protestors are already heroes to most Republicans regardless of what Obama does or doesn't do.

No.  I think the local police should have held back that tape and should have released information.

The original shooting might not have been racial (though unjustified), but the police response has been.
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« Reply #229 on: August 18, 2014, 10:56:34 PM »

Oh no, JJ is back.
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« Reply #230 on: August 18, 2014, 11:00:51 PM »

The police just deployed at random before withdrawing. That was a clear provocation.
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« Reply #231 on: August 18, 2014, 11:08:12 PM »

Stun grenades and tear gas deployed on live TV. Shooting may have occurred on CNN's airways.
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« Reply #232 on: August 18, 2014, 11:10:39 PM »

All night Ferguson has looked more like a middle eastern city than an American city. Really sad.
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« Reply #233 on: August 18, 2014, 11:11:49 PM »

When are the next elections in this city?
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« Reply #234 on: August 18, 2014, 11:20:10 PM »


Half of Council in April 2015, the other half in April 2016, the Mayor in April 2017. 3 year terms.
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« Reply #235 on: August 18, 2014, 11:23:10 PM »

Before someone asks, yes, the Mayor was elected in April. He was also the only candidate to the office.
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« Reply #236 on: August 18, 2014, 11:54:04 PM »


Half of Council in April 2015, the other half in April 2016, the Mayor in April 2017. 3 year terms.

lol April elections. Fck the South, no wonder the entire government down there is white people.
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« Reply #237 on: August 19, 2014, 12:05:31 AM »



Picture of police advancing on the crowd with their guns drawn. Why do they have their guns drawn? lol who knows #yolo #policeswag

(also apparently no one told them that there's no curfew tonight??)
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« Reply #238 on: August 19, 2014, 12:10:16 AM »

I thought the highway patrol had taken over from the county police dept last week?  Did the PD take over again?
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« Reply #239 on: August 19, 2014, 12:15:15 AM »

Yeah, I don't really understand why the regular police are in charge again?
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« Reply #240 on: August 19, 2014, 12:23:57 AM »


Half of Council in April 2015, the other half in April 2016, the Mayor in April 2017. 3 year terms.

lol April elections. Fck the South, no wonder the entire government down there is white people.

Yeah, you know they go out of their way to have many low turnout elections there.  A lot of California has only 1 general election of any sort every 2 years.
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« Reply #241 on: August 19, 2014, 12:30:59 AM »

I still don't understand why they are still rioting.  If the evidence points that the cop was in the wrong and the investigations conclude otherwise, I could understand it (rioting would still be wrong), but for now it just looks stupid and serves no good purpose.


I also saw a dude with a gas mask on with no filter, I'd like to know what went through his head when his gear did nothing.
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« Reply #242 on: August 19, 2014, 12:37:49 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2014, 12:40:29 AM by MaxQue »


Half of Council in April 2015, the other half in April 2016, the Mayor in April 2017. 3 year terms.

lol April elections. Fck the South, no wonder the entire government down there is white people.

Well, there is the issue than, no matter when is the election, there is a lack of candidates anyways. Of the 7 current members, 3 had no oppostion (the mayor, 1 of 3 in 2013, 1 of 2 in 2012). The black councillor was the one of contested councillors of 2013 and he won 73-26, so issue is probably more lack of candidates than timing.
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« Reply #243 on: August 19, 2014, 12:45:41 AM »



Picture of police advancing on the crowd with their guns drawn. Why do they have their guns drawn? lol who knows #yolo #policeswag

(also apparently no one told them that there's no curfew tonight??)

Wow, looks like a whole lot of angry white men with guns. It sorta looks like it could be a teabagger convention!
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« Reply #244 on: August 19, 2014, 01:00:43 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2014, 01:11:10 AM by MaxQue »

Let's note than the opponent to the black candidate was a left-wing environmentalist and pro-bicycle advocate. The black councillor, for some reason, seems very implicated with LGBT issues. So, it's not like if black people/left-wingers can't get elected.

He was also the only black candidate in the 3 last years. Other defeated candidates are a bunch of hyper-conservative white candidates or corrupt former councillors (white, too).

We can't complain than the council isn't representative if the issue is than there is no black candidates (there is at least candidates, at a point in the 00's, they elected someone because there was no candidate and he was the only registered write-in candidate!)

Too long, didn't read: The issue in municipal politics isn't race, it's lack of candidates and ideology (which is normal, given the very limited power of a city like Ferguson. Everyone promises repairing roads, keeping taxes low and protecting kids, no matter the party).
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« Reply #245 on: August 19, 2014, 01:15:44 AM »
« Edited: August 19, 2014, 01:26:08 AM by MaxQue »

That should change next time, through. Politics in non-partisan small cities is usually than incumbents stay in place until they upset people, because nobody opposes a boring mayor doing nothing special (there is nothing special when not touching touching taxes and filling boringly the few functions it has to fill).

Such level of rioting might annoy people on both sides and I suppose pretty much no one in Ferguson is happy right now.

On another note, last year, they voted unanimously against LGBT discrimination. My impression isn't than the city council is racist, rather they are a bunch of people doing that while working too, than they don't have any special training in managing the city and than they are just overwhelmed by the crisis.
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« Reply #246 on: August 19, 2014, 02:36:17 AM »

Al-Jazeera asks the virtually rhetorical question: Why isn't the Tea Party or NRA sending a militia to Ferguson, to defend the local populace from the overreaching police?

I was confused by it at first, because my instinctive reaction was that they are in Ferguson already.  They're forming the counter-protests in support of Darren Wilson and his noble slaying of a ne'erdowell.
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« Reply #247 on: August 19, 2014, 02:42:11 AM »

Yeah, these pro-cop protestors look like your run of the mill teabagger to me. Of course, these days they can just write "our police" and everyone knows what they're talking about.

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« Reply #248 on: August 19, 2014, 03:10:48 AM »

Two German journalists who had covered events on Ferguson were arrested last night. #policestate2014
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« Reply #249 on: August 19, 2014, 04:58:40 AM »

DIE WELT journalist Ansgar Graw published a detailed account on how he was arrested in Ferguson. When he was handcuffed he asked the respective police officer for his name. The officer replied: "Donald Duck".
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