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« on: August 14, 2014, 01:50:57 PM »
« edited: August 22, 2014, 02:53:09 AM by Cris »

With the hope that Lumine will re-open soon his Political Tracker, I think that now we need a tracker, a discussion thread for the next At-Large Senate Election, that will be held on August 22-24.
We will also covered the Federalist Senate Primary.

Federalist Senate Primary

Only two Federalists will get to the general election.      

The candidates:

✔ Senator Lumine (Fed-UT)
✔ Former Mideast Assemblyman JCL (Fed-IN)

Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL)

The polls:

Cris Survey - August 5-11 (15 likely Federalist Primary voters)

Senator Lumine (Fed-UT) 44%                                      
Former Mideast Assemblyman JCL (Fed-IN) 22%
Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL) 17%
Others/Write-In/NOTA 11%
Undecided 6%

The Political Tracker - June 27 (14 likely Federalist Primary voters)

Senator Lumine (Fed-UT) 50,1%                                      
Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL) 35,7%
Senator Goldwater (Fed-DE) 7,1%
Undecided/Write-In 7,1%

General Election

5 seats available

The candidates:

Senator Lumine (Fed-UT)
Former Mideast Assemblyman JCL (Fed-IN)

Senator Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA)   
Senator Alfred F. Jones (Lab-RI)

Northeast Represenative Deus (DR-NY)
Former President Polnut (TPP-MA)
Former SoIA GAworth (P.E.A.C.E-SD)
Former Legislator Mechaman (Bad-IN)
Former Northeast Representative Poirot (Ind-NY)

The polls:

The Political Tracker - August 4-8 (40 likely voters)

Senator LumineVonReuental (Fed-UT) 17,5%
Northeast Representative Deus (DR-NY) 17,5%
Former President Polnut (TPP-MA) 17,5%
Senator Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA) 15%
Mideast Assemblyman JCL (Fed-IN) 12,5%
Senator Alfred F. Jones (Lab-RI) 7,5%
Former Legislator Mechaman (Bad-IN) 5%
Former SoIA Gaworth (P.E.A.C.E-SD) 5%
Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL) 2,5%

The Political Tracker - July 24-27 (36 likely voters)

Senator Lumine (Fed-UT) 33,3%
Northeast Representative Deus (DR-NY) 22,2%
Former President Polnut (TPP-MA) 11,1%
Senator Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA) 11,1%
Senator Adam Griffin (Lab-NB) 8,3%
Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL) 5,6%
Mideast Assemblyman JCL (Fed-IN) 5,6%
Senator Alfred F. Jones (Lab-RI) 2,8%

The Political Tracker - July 4-7 (40 likely voters)

Senator Adam Griffin (Lab-NB) 20%
Northeast Representative Deus (DR-NY) 17,5%
Senator Lumine (Fed-UT) 17,5%
Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL) 15%
Former President Polnut (TPP-MA) 10%
Senator Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA) 5%
Senator Alfred F. Jones (Lab-RI) 2,5%
Senator Goldwater (Fed-DE) 7,5%
Mideast Assemblyman JCL (Fed-IN) 2,5%
Senator Shua (DR-NU) 2,5%

The Political Tracker - June 24-27 (47 likely voters)

Senator Adam Griffin (Lab-NB) 19,1%
Former Senator Clarence (Fed-FL) 17%
Senator Lumine (Fed-UT) 14,9%
Senator Shua (DR-NU) 10,6%
Former Senator Maxwell (DR-LA) 10,6%
Former Pacific Councilior Flo (Lab-GA) 6,4%

Senator Dr. Cynic (Lab-PA) 6,4%
Former President Polnut (TPP-MA) 6,4%
Senator Alfred F. Jones (Lab-RI) 4,3%
Senator Goldwater (Fed-DE) 2,1%
Former GM and Governor SirNick (TPP-NY) 2,1%
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 04:12:36 AM »

With 16% of Federalists that have voted, Lumine and JCL are ahead in the race for the Federalist Senate Nomination.


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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 09:31:46 AM »

With 18% of Federalists that have voted, Lumine and JCL are still ahead in the race for the Federalist Senate Nomination.

QUOTA = 4

First Round

Lumine 6
JCL 2
Clarence 1

Second Round

Lumine 4
JCL 4

Clarence 1
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2014, 09:39:28 AM »

Curious to see Bacon King running for Senate, I wonder if this merits a new poll despite the limited time... (even if he is running for his own movement instead of Labor)
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2014, 09:58:30 AM »

Curious to see Bacon King running for Senate, I wonder if this merits a new poll despite the limited time... (even if he is running for his own movement instead of Labor)

Yes... I will open a new poll today (duration of 3 days, from 18 to 21).
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 09:58:14 AM »

The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 passed the Senate, with seven votes affirmative, two opposed, and one abstention.

Now, these are the numbers from the regions vote:

Pacific - 17% reported - Aye 2 (40%) Nay 3 (60%)
Northeast - 14% reported - Aye 2 (33%) Nay 4 (67%)
Midwest - Polls not open
Mideast - Polls not open
IDS - Polls not open

If I'm not wrong, the Amendment needs to pass in the majority of regions, so 3 regions should voting for the passage of the Amendment.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2014, 10:57:55 AM »

The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 passed the Senate, with seven votes affirmative, two opposed, and one abstention.

Now, these are the numbers from the regions vote:

Pacific - 17% reported - Aye 2 (40%) Nay 3 (60%)
Northeast - 14% reported - Aye 2 (33%) Nay 4 (67%)
Midwest - Polls not open
Mideast - Polls not open
IDS - Polls not open

If I'm not wrong, the Amendment needs to pass in the majority of regions, so 3 regions should voting for the passage of the Amendment.

Unless they changed it when I wasn't looking, it needs to pass in 3/4 of the regions, which is in effect 4/5 of the regions.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2014, 02:05:36 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2014, 03:06:07 PM by Cris »

UPDATE:

Now, these are the numbers from the regions vote:

Pacific - 30% reported - Aye 3 (33%) Nay 6 (67%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Northeast - 14% reported - Aye 2 (33%) Nay 4 (67%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Midwest - 10% reported - Aye 3 (100%) Nay 0 (0%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Mideast - Polls not open
IDS - Polls not open

The Amendment needs to pass in the majority of regions, so 3 (or 4?) regions should voting for the passage of the Amendment.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2014, 10:44:10 PM »

It needs to pass in three-quarters of the regions; since 3/5 is only 60%, ratification requires 4 regions.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 06:53:39 AM »

UPDATE:

Now, these are the numbers from the regions vote:

Pacific - 33% reported - Aye 3 (30%) Nay 7 (70%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Northeast - 33% reported - Aye 8 (57%) Nay 6 (43%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Midwest - 17% reported - Aye 4 (80%) Nay 0 (0%) Abstain 1 (20%)
IDS - 7% reported - Aye 1 (50%) Nay 1 (50%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Mideast - Polls not open

National - 18% reported - Aye 16 (52%) Nay 14 (45%) Abstain 1 (3%)

The Amendment needs to pass in 4 regions.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 07:40:16 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 09:10:10 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2014, 09:12:59 AM by Cris »

UPDATE:

Now, these are the numbers from the regions vote:

Pacific - 37% reported - Aye 4 (40%) Nay 6 (60%) Abstain 0 (0%) (The Het of Cranberry is an Aye or a Nay? I haven't counted his vote.)
Northeast - 36% reported - Aye 8 (53%) Nay 7 (47%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Midwest - 17% reported - Aye 4 (80%) Nay 0 (0%) Abstain 1 (20%)
IDS - 11% reported - Aye 2 (67%) Nay 1 (33%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Mideast - Polls not open

National - 20% reported - Aye 18 (54%) Nay 14 (42%) Abstain 1 (3%)

In the Northeast, 4 votes (2 Ayes and 2 Nays) were expressed outside of the time parameters. I'm not sure if these votes are valid or not.

The Amendment needs to pass in 4 regions.

The map:

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 03:35:35 AM »

UPDATE:

Now, these are the numbers from the regions vote:

Pacific - 33% reported - Aye 4 (40%) Nay 6 (60%) Abstain 0 (0%) (The Het of Cranberry is an Aye or a Nay? I haven't counted his vote.)
Northeast - 45% reported - Aye 8 (42%) Nay 11 (58%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Midwest - 21% reported - Aye 5 (83%) Nay 0 (0%) Abstain 1 (17%)
IDS - 18% reported - Aye 3 (60%) Nay 1 (40%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Mideast - Polls not open

National - 23% reported - Aye 20 (50%) Nay 19 (48%) Abstain 1 (2%)

In the Northeast, 4 votes (2 Ayes and 2 Nays) were expressed outside of the time parameters. I'm not sure if these votes are valid or not.

The Amendment needs to pass in 4 regions.

The map:
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 07:22:07 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2014, 07:24:20 AM by Poirot »

It could be the clock setting issue. I also see the first votes before the day starts but I may be 1 hour off with Atlasian clock.

Just looking at my post here, I am indeed 1 hour off, so that could be what Cris sees too.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2014, 07:32:45 AM »

What votes were cast outside of the time parameters? The booth said that voting began on August 19, and no one voted before then. That's leaving aside that votes on federal amendments are to be opened immediately and that the delay may not even be legal in the first place.
It could be the clock setting issue. I also see the first votes before the day starts but I may be 1 hour off with Atlasian clock.

Just looking at my post here, I am indeed 1 hour off, so that could be what Cris sees too.

If my interpretation isn't wrong, the Northeast polls were open at 00.00 am on August 19  and the polls will closed at 23.59.59 am on August 26 and 4 votes were casted between 11.41 pm - 11.46 pm on August 18.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 10:43:07 AM »

Ugh, I think it's and EDT/EST issue.

Still, I don't understand why there was a delay in the first place. Northeast law doesn't even dictate how long the booth needs to be open. (Yes, this is up to the regions since ratification of the 17th Amendment.) As there is no apparent legal basis for disenfranchising me and the other voters who made the same mistake, I expect our votes to be counted.
The 4 votes were counted in my updates.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 12:06:26 PM »

I am only counting 18 No votes, not 19.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 12:18:14 PM »

The Het of Cranberry is an Aye or a Nay? I haven't counted his vote.

He did not vote "Het" but rather "Нет", which is "Nyet"- Nay.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 01:02:51 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2014, 01:11:10 PM by Cris »

I am only counting 18 No votes, not 19.

With the vote of Cranberry included, I have:

Pacific - 36% reported - Aye 4 (36%) Nay 7 (64%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Northeast - 48% reported - Aye 9 (45%) Nay 11 (55%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Midwest - 21% reported - Aye 5 (83%) Nay 0 (0%) Abstain 1 (17%)
IDS - 18% reported - Aye 3 (60%) Nay 2 (40%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Mideast - Polls not open

National - 24% reported - Aye 21 (50%) Nay 20 (48%) Abstain 1 (2%)

The Amendment needs to pass in 4 regions.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 01:56:55 PM »

BrandonCordeiro is not registered in Atlasia, so his vote should not be counted
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 02:00:47 PM »

BrandonCordeiro is not registered in Atlasia, so his vote should not be counted

So we have:

Pacific - 36% reported - Aye 4 (36%) Nay 7 (64%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Northeast - 45% reported - Aye 9 (47%) Nay 10 (53%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Midwest - 21% reported - Aye 5 (83%) Nay 0 (0%) Abstain 1 (17%)
IDS - 18% reported - Aye 3 (60%) Nay 2 (40%) Abstain 0 (0%)
Mideast - Polls not open

National - 24% reported - Aye 21 (51%) Nay 19 (46%) Abstain 1 (2%)

The Amendment needs to pass in 4 regions.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2014, 02:19:23 PM »

Final Cris Survey poll.



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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2014, 02:54:25 PM »

Holy Dave! I am fourth! But polls can't always be trusted.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 03:12:41 AM »

August Senate Election

Latest vote of BaconBacon.

With 6 votes casted before 0.00 AM COUNTED.

QUOTA = 3 (3,67 --> 3)

FIRST ROUND - Deus Naturae and Alfred F. Jones are elected.

Deus Naturae 6
Alfred F. Jones 3

GAworth 2
JCL 2
Lumine 2
Bacon King 1
Clarence (or Unaffiliated) 0
Dr. Cynic 0
Mechaman 0
Poirot 0
Polnut 0

SECOND ROUND - The Deus's surplus is transferred to the remaining candidates. JCL and Lumine are elected.

Deus Naturae 3
Alfred F. Jones 3

JCL 3,5
Lumine 3

GAworth 2
Bacon King 1
Polnut 0,5
Clarence (or Unaffiliated) 0
Dr. Cynic 0
Mechaman 0
Poirot 0

THIRD ROUND - GAworth is elected. The JCL's surplus isn't allocated because the maximum accumulable by Bacon King is 1,5 and GAworth has 2 votes.

Deus Naturae 3
Alfred F. Jones 3

JCL 3,5
Lumine 3

GAworth 2
Bacon King 1
Polnut 0,5
Clarence (or Unaffiliated) 0
Dr. Cynic 0
Mechaman 0
Poirot 0

WITHOUT 6 votes casted before 0.00 AM

QUOTA = 2 (2,67 --> 2)

FIRST ROUND - Alfred F. Jones, Deus Naturae, GAworth and Lumine are elected.

Alfred F. Jones 3
Deus Naturae 2
GAworth 2
Lumine 2

JCL 1
Bacon King 0
Clarence (or Unaffiliated) 0
Dr. Cynic 0
Mechaman 0
Poirot 0
Polnut 0

SECON ROUND - The Alfred's surplus is transferred to the remaining candidates. JCL is elected.

Alfred F. Jones 2
Deus Naturae 2
GAworth 2
Lumine 2

JCL 1
Dr. Cynic 0,7
Bacon King 0,3
Clarence (or Unaffiliated) 0
Mechaman 0
Poirot 0
Polnut 0
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 03:14:07 AM »

I thought I'd never see the day when I help JCL win an election.
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