What happens if the candidates get the EXACT same number of votes in a state?
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  What happens if the candidates get the EXACT same number of votes in a state?
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« on: August 14, 2014, 02:00:32 PM »

It is basically impossible, but let's say the candidates in a state both get 3,454,573 votes or something. Who does the state go to and how is it decided? This has always bothered me, especially since it came so close to happening in Florida and New Mexico in 2000.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 04:09:01 PM »

They have various methods - usually coin tosses or pulling names out of a hat.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2014, 09:49:16 PM »

They have various methods - usually coin tosses or pulling names out of a hat.

Correct. State laws specify the method used to break a tie, or sometimes just that they must be resolved by lot. In these cases it is a random procedure to give each candidate in a tie an equal chance of success. Some states require that a tie be resolved by a runoff election.

It may be statistically remote to see an exact tie for presidential electors in a state, however the state laws apply to all races. It isn't so rare to see a tie in a local race that might only involve a few hundred voters.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2014, 09:52:06 PM »

Local IRV races might sometimes have ties among candidates with few votes, but generally it probably wouldn't matter which one was eliminated first.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 12:22:29 PM »

A  likable but politically oblivious everyman gets to cast the deciding vote. Hilarious hi-jinx ensue as both presidential candidates arrive in his small town to personally woo him for his vote.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 07:38:43 PM »

A  likable but politically oblivious everyman gets to cast the deciding vote. Hilarious hi-jinx ensue as both presidential candidates arrive in his small town to personally woo him for his vote.

I respect you so much for this.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2014, 06:35:39 PM »

A  likable but politically oblivious everyman gets to cast the deciding vote. Hilarious hi-jinx ensue as both presidential candidates arrive in his small town to personally woo him for his vote.

but who is played by Rob Schneider?
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 11:39:18 AM »

It is basically impossible, but let's say the candidates in a state both get 3,454,573 votes or something. Who does the state go to and how is it decided? This has always bothered me, especially since it came so close to happening in Florida and New Mexico in 2000.
In Missouri, electors are elected by congressional district based on the statewide vote.  In case of tie, the legislature determines the elector from each district.

In the past, some states have required majority election for electors.  In those cases, the legislature chose the electors, but there is nothing in the constitution that would preclude a runoff.
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