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« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2014, 05:06:08 PM »
« edited: August 25, 2014, 05:14:11 PM by xavier110 »

My prediction:

82% Cuomo
17% Teachout
  1% Credico

Veteran NY journalist Joe Mahoney says he hears of upper-echelon Dems being stunned by Teachout's rise... 17% is around what Tasini and Goode got with little effort and support--Teachout's floor. At this point, I would guess she pushes 200k and passes 30%.
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« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2014, 05:19:03 PM »
« Edited: August 25, 2014, 05:26:39 PM by Progressive »

BREAKING: Friend told me that Teachout just got Sierra Club endorsement, to be announced soon.
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« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2014, 05:23:25 PM »

I'll go 65-35 Cuomo.

de Blasio's a fool for becoming his lapdog. There's very real room for him to go rogue (and win while doing it).
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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2014, 05:47:23 PM »

I'll go 65-35 Cuomo.

de Blasio's a fool for becoming his lapdog. There's very real room for him to go rogue (and win while doing it).

He tried not to be and got put in his place Sad

Anyway, fingers crossed re: the NYT coming through for Teachout!
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« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2014, 05:52:02 PM »

I'll go 65-35 Cuomo.

de Blasio's a fool for becoming his lapdog. There's very real room for him to go rogue (and win while doing it).

He tried not to be and got put in his place Sad

Anyway, fingers crossed re: the NYT coming through for Teachout!

I don't see a NYT endorsement for Teachout or Cuomo gaining either more votes, though it could help make people aware of Teachout.
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« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2014, 06:38:15 PM »

I'll go 65-35 Cuomo.

de Blasio's a fool for becoming his lapdog. There's very real room for him to go rogue (and win while doing it).

He tried not to be and got put in his place Sad

Anyway, fingers crossed re: the NYT coming through for Teachout!

I don't see a NYT endorsement for Teachout or Cuomo gaining either more votes, though it could help make people aware of Teachout.

At the least, it'd infuriate and humiliate Cuomo Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2014, 07:08:45 PM »

Teachout will definitely reach 30%. 40% is difficult but not impossible.
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« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2014, 09:13:16 PM »

If Teachout breaks 40%, I will eat crow. I will literally find a crow, cook it, and eat it.
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« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2014, 09:49:00 PM »

What's the likelihood Teachout wins the WFP endorsement, along with their ballot line in November?
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« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2014, 09:50:15 PM »
« Edited: August 25, 2014, 09:55:06 PM by xavier110 »

What's the likelihood Teachout wins the WFP endorsement, along with their ballot line in November?

Cuomo already has it after negotiating a deal with its party bosses, thereby winning the convention. So if Teachout were to pull off the "upset of the century," she would still face him on the Independence and Working Families lines (and I guess this woman's party line, or whatever they invented), along with the Republican nominee.
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« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2014, 02:37:11 PM »
« Edited: August 26, 2014, 03:11:59 PM by xavier110 »

BREAKING: New York Times publicly rebukes Cuomo, declines to endorse him, essentially endorses Teachout (as good as she'll get from them)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/27/opinion/editorial-governor-cuomo-ethics-reform-hinders-endorsement-zephyr-teachout.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

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The Teachout campaign must be thrilled--the whispers I heard were right.
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« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2014, 02:38:56 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.
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« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2014, 02:41:53 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.

Stop raining on my parade Angry Tongue

BTW: What I would give to be a fly on the wall wherever Cuomo was when he found out about this Tongue
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« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2014, 02:42:46 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.

Stop raining on my parade Angry Tongue

BTW: What I would give to be a fly on the wall wherever Cuomo was when he found out about this Tongue

I would say his Presidential ambitions are basically over, though.
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« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2014, 02:44:41 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.

Stop raining on my parade Angry Tongue

BTW: What I would give to be a fly on the wall wherever Cuomo was when he found out about this Tongue

I would say his Presidential ambitions are basically over, though.

Excellent Smiley
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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2014, 02:48:44 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.

I think she could possibly even hit 40%. The people who will turn out will be disenchanted with him, her name recognition is only climbing, and the NYT rebuke (and nearly uniformly positive ink about Teachout) will boost her among the reliable latte libs and those already concerned about her pet issues like Common Core, fracking, etc.
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« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2014, 03:36:23 PM »

A Times endorsement would have been a gamechanger. A noncommital is a nothingburger.

Primary challengers and tend to be strongest in small states. In one of the largest states in the country, it's tougher for a Zephyr Teachout to get sufficient publicity.
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« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2014, 03:40:55 PM »
« Edited: August 26, 2014, 03:48:13 PM by xavier110 »

A Times endorsement would have been a gamechanger. A noncommital is a nothingburger.

Primary challengers and tend to be strongest in small states. In one of the largest states in the country, it's tougher for a Zephyr Teachout to get sufficient publicity.

It doesn't read like a nothingburger, and based on the social media reaction I've seen, it seems like a big deal -- at least among the politico types who are now eyeing this campaign. Needless to say, Zephyr Teachout is not another Jonathan Tasini or Gail Goode. We'll just have to wait and see how the next two weeks go.
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« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2014, 03:53:49 PM »

A Times endorsement would have been a gamechanger. A noncommital is a nothingburger.

Primary challengers and tend to be strongest in small states. In one of the largest states in the country, it's tougher for a Zephyr Teachout to get sufficient publicity.

It doesn't read like a nothingburger, and based on the social media reaction I've seen, it seems like a big deal -- at least among the politico types who are now eyeing this campaign. Needless to say, Zephyr Teachout is not another Jonathan Tasini or Gail Goode. We'll just have to wait and see how the next two weeks go.
She would have to get the attention of 500,000 primary voters in the next two weeks.

An endorsement would have helped.
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« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2014, 05:58:15 PM »

Any realistic chance Teachout could carry a single county (and if so which one)?
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« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2014, 06:08:15 PM »

Any realistic chance Teachout could carry a single county (and if so which one)?

Tompkins... any anti-fracking upstate counties, probably
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« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2014, 06:50:11 PM »

I suggest everyone read the NYT editorial, it is a near endorsement of Teachout, via the wording.

Additionally, of note, Josh Fox, director of Gasland (about tracking), endorsed Teachout as did a prominent Bangladeshi political group--representing thousands mainly in Brooklyn and Queens. Getting very interesting.
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« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2014, 07:27:51 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.

Stop raining on my parade Angry Tongue

BTW: What I would give to be a fly on the wall wherever Cuomo was when he found out about this Tongue

I would say his Presidential ambitions are basically over, though.

Hillary already ended them.
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« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2014, 08:44:18 PM »

This is such a fast turn of events. Not sure voters are going to change that quickly.

Stop raining on my parade Angry Tongue

BTW: What I would give to be a fly on the wall wherever Cuomo was when he found out about this Tongue

I would say his Presidential ambitions are basically over, though.

Hillary already ended them.

Well, I was talking in unlikely events or in 2020 if Hilldawg decides to abandon ship.
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« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2014, 09:00:31 PM »

After reading the NYT column, it seems pretty weak. It's basically saying "yes, we want to/should endorse Teachout, but we're not going to because reasons". I guess they don't want to make an enemy of Cuomo, but I think by not explicitly endorsing him they already have.
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