Cuomo v. Teachout

[Mister Mets]

After reading the NYT column, it seems pretty weak. It's basically saying "yes, we want to/should endorse Teachout, but we're not going to because reasons". I guess they don't want to make an enemy of Cuomo, but I think by not explicitly endorsing him they already have.

They may believe that a professor isn't ready to be their Governor.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

After reading the NYT column, it seems pretty weak. It's basically saying "yes, we want to/should endorse Teachout, but we're not going to because reasons". I guess they don't want to make an enemy of Cuomo, but I think by not explicitly endorsing him they already have.

They may believe that a professor isn't ready to be their Governor.

A constitutional law professor with experience in leadership positions such as head of Internet outreach for the Dean campaign and former national director of the Sunlight Foundation is certainly more qualified than corrupt Coumo to be governor.

[Progressive]

The Nation has just endorsed Teachout and the Rochester City Newspaper just published an article outlining Teachout's rise in this race. http://www.rochestercitynewspaper.com/rochester/teachouts-emerging-voice/Content?oid=2426828

[Vega]

The Nation has just endorsed Teachout and the Rochester City Newspaper just published an article outlining Teachout's rise in this race. http://www.rochestercitynewspaper.com/rochester/teachouts-emerging-voice/Content?oid=2426828

Not bad. This is definitely spreading positive buzz.

[xavier110]

The New York Times endorses Teachout's running mate Tim Wu

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/opinion/timothy-wu-for-lieutenant-governor.html?ref=opinion

[Miles]

^ God dammit.

[Flake]

Hopefully Teachout/Wu can pull it off!

[free my dawg]

Awesome. Maybe this will turn Cuomo's "great turn leftward" into something more than lip service.

[Progressive]

This may actually hurt Teachout. People may see Wu as the more viable of the two and focus on making sure Kathy Hochul doesn't win the primary.

[KCDem]

This may actually hurt Teachout. People may see Wu as the more viable of the two and focus on making sure Kathy Hochul doesn't win the primary.

No one is paying that close attention to this race. Hochul underperforms Cuomo in the primary simply due to lower name recognition I would suspect.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This may actually hurt Teachout. People may see Wu as the more viable of the two and focus on making sure Kathy Hochul doesn't win the primary.

Wu winning and Teachout getting 18-25% is much better than Wu losing and Teachout getting 25-35%.  It'd still be an enormous (and probably more significant, practically speaking) embarrassment to Cuomo.  Btw, am I the only one who is worried Kathy Hochul will just declare herself an IDCer after the election (or even after the primary)?  

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

This may actually hurt Teachout. People may see Wu as the more viable of the two and focus on making sure Kathy Hochul doesn't win the primary.

It's not really a slight of Teachout. If the it was Wu/Teachout, they'd have endorsed Teachout and declined to endorse Wu.

[Eraserhead]

It's unfortunate that there hasn't been any public polling that I'm aware of. There's obviously been private polling though and the Cuomo camp is clearly concerned about it.

[xavier110]

Some gems from this: Cuomo potentially dropping Hochul, all agree Teachout is going to hit at least 30%, and Wu will have a closet for an office if he wins

http://nypost.com/2014/09/01/cuomo-may-dump-hochul-fearing-a-tim-wu-primary-win/

Since camp Cuomo can't really work with the unions, they're meeting with Jewish communities to turn out the vote

http://jpupdates.com/2014/09/01/nygov-cuomo-eyeing-jewish-vote-bid-overcome-teachoutwu-challenge/

[Progressive]

I think the big question here is how to NYC suburbs break down the vote. Nameliy: Nassau, Suffolk (Long Island), Westchester, but also suburban NYC including largely ethnic-white parts of Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island. I don't expect Teachout to do well here, though, perhaps making matters worse for Cuomo in suburbia is that there are few (if any, that I can think of) state legislative races in the suburbs. This means that suburban New Yorkers, middle of the road Democrats, may be even less likely to turn out than usual.

Areas with major state legislative primaries:

Upper Manhattan: (a number of Assembly seats and the Adriano Espaillat State Senate seat). Largely black and Dominican and Puerto Rican.

Upper East Side: Open Assembly seat, large share are NYT readers, can be good for Wu, not sure about Teachout, since UES-ers are generally less liberal than rest of Manhattan.

Brooklyn: Primaries abound both in Brownstone Brooklyn (Teachout Heaven) and Caribbean-Brooklyn (heavy-union). 1199SEIU and TWU100 represent huge chunks of Brooklynites in the Caribbean communities. They've backed Cuomo, but a hot Assembly race in Brownstone Brooklyn may bring out Teachout voters.

Queens: Primaries abound in ethnic-Jewish, Asian, and mixed black/Caribbean communities here. Former City Comptroller John Liu, NYC's first Asian-American citywide officeholder is on the ballot and is backed by most unions, elected officials, and the party. This might boost Wu, big time.

Bronx: A number of primaries but the Jeff Klein v. Koppell race along with a few Assembly races will bring out a mix of upper middle class, but liberal, Jewish voters and black and Latino voters in the Assembly races.

So, assuming the competitive legislative districts in NYC have higher turnout for Gov/LG race, where does this lead Cuomo, Hochul, Teachout, and Wu? Short answer: no idea. Long answer: It depends--will people follow their unions? Are minority voters dissatisfied enough with Cuomo to vote for Teachout? Will Asian-Americans vote for Wu, the way they are expected to in the competitive State Senate races?

[Progressive]

Mark Green, 2001 Dem nominee for NYC Mayor and former NYC Public Advocate will be endorsing Teachout-Wu today, according to my friend who is somewhat "in the know."

[xavier110]

Lol.

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http://www.ny1.com/content/politics/ny1_political_itch/214793/ny1-itch--how-the-governor-tanks-a-debate/

[Eraserhead]

Cuomo is a strange creature.

[solarstorm]

What about Credico? What'll be his percentage?

[Eraserhead]

What about Credico? What'll be his percentage?

Maybe 3 or 4% if he's lucky.

[solarstorm]

What about Credico? What'll be his percentage?

Maybe 3 or 4% if he's lucky.

According to AP he will have gotten 40%.

[cinyc]

When are the polls closed?

They're not even open yet.  The election is next Tuesday.  IIRC, New York polls close at 9pm.

[xavier110]

Cuomo actually said today that the only number that matters is 50%. Oof. Kinda like the only poll that matters is Election Day.

[solarstorm]

When are the polls closed?

They're not even open yet.  The election is next Tuesday.  IIRC, New York polls close at 9pm.

Boo! I thought they were held today.

[Eraserhead]

Cuomo actually said today that the only number that matters is 50%. Oof. Kinda like the only poll that matters is Election Day.

Wow, are his internals that bad?