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H. Ross Peron
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« on: August 14, 2014, 10:36:43 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/13/upshot/where-people-in-each-state-were-born.html?smid=fb-nytimes&WT.z_sma=UP_TXX_20140814&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1388552400000&bicmet=1420088400000&_r=2#Texas

Very fascinating series of charts by NYT.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 10:41:20 AM »

Yeah, I saw this. Interesting series.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 11:47:43 AM »

Those are fascinating charts. I definitely found it interesting that those that were born in the West tend to largely stay in the West (as shown by the huge numbers of California-born individuals in other Western states) and that Southerners tend to stay in the South. It's also apparent that Florida is absolutely NOT a destination for Westerners.

On a related note, are there any statistics as to the breakdown of those born in the US by state (in other words, how many Americans were born in New York, California, Texas, etc)?
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 03:52:00 PM »

Very interesting. Here's a map of the % of people of each state that was born in their state.



The lowest is Nevada at 25%, the highest is Louisiana at 79%.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 04:35:53 PM »

On a related note, are there any statistics as to the breakdown of those born in the US by state (in other words, how many Americans were born in New York, California, Texas, etc)?

Born in the US or born in a particular state?

In fact the maps reveal both of those informations.

Here's the percentage of US born citizens (everyone minus immigrants) in a selected few states:

West Virginia: 98%
Mississippi: 98%
Montana: 97%
South Dakota: 97%
Missouri: 96%
Maine: 96%
Kentucky: 96%
Alabama: 96%
Louisiana: 96%
Wisconsin: 95%
Ohio: 95%
Iowa: 95%
Tennessee: 95%
New Hampshire: 93%
Minnesota: 92%
Pennsylvania: 92%
Alaska: 92%
North Carolina: 91%
Utah: 91%
Oregon: 90%
New Mexico: 90%
Colorado: 89%
Georgia: 89%
Virginia: 87%
Connecticut: 86%
Maryland: 85%
Rhode Island: 85%
Arizona: 85%
Illinois: 85%
Washington: 85%
Washington D.C.: 84%
Texas: 83%
Massachusetts: 82%
Hawaii: 80%
Florida: 79%
Nevada: 79%
New Jersey: 77%
New York: 76%
California: 72%
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 04:45:20 PM »

This map is pretty neat. Smiley



Blue = Midwest
Orange/yellow = West
Purple = Northeast
Lime = Soth
Dark grey = Other countries
Light grey = Born in state

OK, so the link didn't work. Try this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/upshot/mapping-migration-in-the-united-states-since-1900.html?abt=0002&abg=1
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 05:55:13 PM »

Interesting to see that, at least according to this map, in migration to Indiana from Illinois is overstated by the ILGOP.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2014, 07:05:22 PM »

Very interesting indeed. 

One thing I notice that Washington State has several people from the Upper Midwest.  Large part of Oregon's outsiders are Midwesterners as well.  There are many cultural similarities between the Pacific Northwest and Upper Midwest states like Minnesota and Iowa.   
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2014, 10:23:53 PM »

Interesting to see that, at least according to this map, in migration to Indiana from Illinois is overstated by the ILGOP.

In what way is it overstated? IL is the number one source of immigrants to IN and the fraction of IN residents born in IL has grown from 5% to 6% over the last decade. At the same time the fraction of residents from all other Midwestern states in IL is at 8% and that is a decline over the last decade. The natural conclusion is that immigration from IL to IN is growing over the last decade while the reverse direction is probably declining (assuming the proportions within the Midwest stayed relatively uniform).
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2014, 11:29:51 PM »

Interesting to see that, at least according to this map, in migration to Indiana from Illinois is overstated by the ILGOP.

In what way is it overstated? IL is the number one source of immigrants to IN and the fraction of IN residents born in IL has grown from 5% to 6% over the last decade. At the same time the fraction of residents from all other Midwestern states in IL is at 8% and that is a decline over the last decade. The natural conclusion is that immigration from IL to IN is growing over the last decade while the reverse direction is probably declining (assuming the proportions within the Midwest stayed relatively uniform).

It makes sense that Indiana receives the greatest # of immigrants from Illinois of all Midwestern states, as it is the most populous Midwestern state and it borders it as well.

Now, if you look back, the percentage of Hoosiers that were born in Illinois has increased steadily over the decades. It is not a recent surge since the Democrats locked this state down nor is the increase particularly large whatsoever.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 12:18:25 PM »

I wonder if the geography of major cities near state borders skews this at all.

A lot of people in New Mexico were born in Texas simply because El Paso is the nearest major city for a large swath of the state; so they'll be born at a hospital in Texas, then immediately go to New Mexico and never actually live in Texas. I'd imagine the same phenomenon might happen in the DC area for VA/MD/DC people.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2014, 01:01:42 PM »

On a related note, are there any statistics as to the breakdown of those born in the US by state (in other words, how many Americans were born in New York, California, Texas, etc)?

Born in the US or born in a particular state?

In fact the maps reveal both of those informations.

I wanted to know the former, and I didn't see that listed anywhere. I would imagine that more Americans were born in California than any other state, although I'd also guess that New York would be very high as well (probably second to California). To make it more clear, I'd like to know the number of Americans by state of birth. According to the 2010 Census, about 270 million Americans are native born. I'd like to see that number broken down by state of birth.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2014, 07:31:28 PM »

On a related note, are there any statistics as to the breakdown of those born in the US by state (in other words, how many Americans were born in New York, California, Texas, etc)?

Born in the US or born in a particular state?

In fact the maps reveal both of those informations.

I wanted to know the former, and I didn't see that listed anywhere. I would imagine that more Americans were born in California than any other state, although I'd also guess that New York would be very high as well (probably second to California). To make it more clear, I'd like to know the number of Americans by state of birth. According to the 2010 Census, about 270 million Americans are native born. I'd like to see that number broken down by state of birth.

Social Security Administration might have that info somewhere.

Most people don't realize that the first three digits of your SSN correspond to where your card was issued to you; for most native-born people, that's the state they were born in.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2014, 09:48:07 PM »

On a related note, are there any statistics as to the breakdown of those born in the US by state (in other words, how many Americans were born in New York, California, Texas, etc)?

Born in the US or born in a particular state?

In fact the maps reveal both of those informations.

I wanted to know the former, and I didn't see that listed anywhere. I would imagine that more Americans were born in California than any other state, although I'd also guess that New York would be very high as well (probably second to California). To make it more clear, I'd like to know the number of Americans by state of birth. According to the 2010 Census, about 270 million Americans are native born. I'd like to see that number broken down by state of birth.

This is the same question I posed in this thread:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=190254.0

And using migration data from 2009, my best guesses on the top 5 states by place of birth were:

1) CA
2) NY
3) TX
4) IL
5) PA

I could have gone farther, and tried to reconstruct it for all 50 states, but I wasn't that motivated.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2014, 11:10:53 PM »

I see D.C. has never been majority native.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2014, 11:28:35 PM »


On a related note, are there any statistics as to the breakdown of those born in the US by state (in other words, how many Americans were born in New York, California, Texas, etc)?

Born in the US or born in a particular state?

In fact the maps reveal both of those informations.

I wanted to know the former, and I didn't see that listed anywhere. I would imagine that more Americans were born in California than any other state, although I'd also guess that New York would be very high as well (probably second to California). To make it more clear, I'd like to know the number of Americans by state of birth. According to the 2010 Census, about 270 million Americans are native born. I'd like to see that number broken down by state of birth.
For 2000: population born in state (or DC or PR), and living in US or PR (ie not overseas).


Alabama                4,784,944
Alaska                   445,704
Arizona                2,546,626
Arkansas               2,905,920
California            22,137,341
Colorado               2,848,419
Connecticut            2,984,847
Delaware                 608,080
District of Columbia   1,333,674
Florida                7,109,367
Georgia                6,454,906
Hawaii                 1,093,202
Idaho                  1,102,485
Illinois              12,694,353
Indiana                6,097,120
Iowa                   3,708,577
Kansas                 2,861,444
Kentucky               4,526,761
Louisiana              4,956,025
Maine                  1,294,098
Maryland               3,813,370
Massachusetts          6,342,301
Michigan              10,166,053
Minnesota              4,856,163
Mississippi            3,505,212
Missouri               5,742,470
Montana                  949,863
Nebraska               2,050,469
Nevada                   676,579
New Hampshire            875,354
New Jersey             6,967,168
New Mexico             1,563,499
New York              19,585,564
North Carolina         6,783,313
North Dakota           1,039,975
Ohio                  11,970,426
Oklahoma               3,579,826
Oregon                 2,346,021
Pennsylvania          13,812,297
Rhode Island           1,065,939
South Carolina         3,680,037
South Dakota           1,035,184
Tennessee              5,237,285
Texas                 16,249,763
Utah                   1,988,821
Vermont                  559,142
Virginia               5,461,976
Washington             3,953,086
West Virginia          2,572,112
Wisconsin              5,373,448
Wyoming                  489,857
Puerto Rico            4,893,114


The following rank is based on population born in US+PR (excluding foreign born, born outside US+PR to US parents, and born in insular territories other than PR), and living in the US or PR in 2010.

Rank for population is: CA, TX, NY, FL, PA, OH, IL, MI, NC, GA
Rank for births is: CA, NY, TX, PA, IL, OH, MI, FL, NJ, NC
Rank for emigrants: NY, CA, IL, PA, OH, TX. MI, NJ, MA, MO
Rank for immigrants: FL, CA, TX, GA, VA, NY, AZ. IL, NC, OH
Rank for natives: CA, TX, NY, PA, OH, IL, MI, FL, NC, GA

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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2014, 11:49:49 PM »

Interesting to see that, at least according to this map, in migration to Indiana from Illinois is overstated by the ILGOP.

In what way is it overstated? IL is the number one source of immigrants to IN and the fraction of IN residents born in IL has grown from 5% to 6% over the last decade. At the same time the fraction of residents from all other Midwestern states in IL is at 8% and that is a decline over the last decade. The natural conclusion is that immigration from IL to IN is growing over the last decade while the reverse direction is probably declining (assuming the proportions within the Midwest stayed relatively uniform).

It makes sense that Indiana receives the greatest # of immigrants from Illinois of all Midwestern states, as it is the most populous Midwestern state and it borders it as well.

Now, if you look back, the percentage of Hoosiers that were born in Illinois has increased steadily over the decades. It is not a recent surge since the Democrats locked this state down nor is the increase particularly large whatsoever.

That's not what the graph shows. From 1940 to 2000 the percentage of residents of IN from IL held at 5%. Compared to the changes from the other large source, KY, that proportion was very stable. But, by 2012 the percentage of residents of IN from IL moved up to 6%. That's a 20% increase after a long period of stability. I'm not going to make any claims about causality, but that is a significant uptick given the large population samples involved.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2014, 12:22:10 AM »

Most people don't realize that the first three digits of your SSN correspond to where your card was issued to you; for most native-born people, that's the state they were born in.
Especially now that dependents have to have SSNs to be claimed on your taxes.  I was born before that and moved to another state before I got my SSN.
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