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« on: August 20, 2014, 02:50:49 AM »

I didn't find the thread for this. Uruguay 38% atheist, yay!


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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 05:59:34 AM »

I didn't find the thread for this. Uruguay 38% atheist, yay!

The biggest 'yey' should be the fact that not only are 38% atheist, but 41% are still Catholic. The alternative is a saccharin happy clappy nightmare.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 06:15:58 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2014, 06:35:11 AM by Mynheer Peeperkorn »

Firstly, I would take the so called-catholics with a grain of salt (we are doing our best).

Secondly, this thread should be in the Religion & Philosophy forum. My apologies.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 06:22:04 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2014, 06:39:01 AM by Mynheer Peeperkorn »

I didn't find the thread for this. Uruguay 38% atheist, yay!

The biggest 'yey' should be the fact that not only are 38% atheist, but 41% are still Catholic. The alternative is a saccharin happy clappy nightmare.

This is so true. Evangelists from Brazil are creepy. Even when they are stupid selling "holy water" from the Jordan River and "Jesus approval" soap. Not joking.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 06:24:40 AM »

In fact, they built a new Temple of Salomón in Brasiú:

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 06:25:52 AM »

What happened in 1998? Different methodology?
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2014, 06:38:04 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2014, 06:45:10 AM by Mynheer Peeperkorn »

What happened in 1998? Different methodology?

Don't know. Latinobarómetro has a good reputation but we have an anomaly in 2010 or 2011.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2014, 06:43:44 AM »

I didn't find the thread for this. Uruguay 38% atheist, yay!

The biggest 'yey' should be the fact that not only are 38% atheist, but 41% are still Catholic. The alternative is a saccharin happy clappy nightmare.

The evangelical conquest of Central America is a disturbing prospect, isn't it?
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 06:47:15 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2014, 06:49:37 AM by Mynheer Peeperkorn »

I didn't find the thread for this. Uruguay 38% atheist, yay!

The biggest 'yey' should be the fact that not only are 38% atheist, but 41% are still Catholic. The alternative is a saccharin happy clappy nightmare.

The evangelical conquest of Central America is a disturbing prospect, isn't it?

It is. I've seen in Costa Rica companies with the name and logo of Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 07:36:57 AM »

Protestants are almost a plurality in Guatemala and Honduras? Now I knew that the Evangelicals were big there, but....

Interesting that the Protestant population is still so low for Mexico in comparison.

Any info for Colombia, Bolivia or Peru?
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 08:10:12 AM »

I didn't find the thread for this. Uruguay 38% atheist, yay!

The biggest 'yey' should be the fact that not only are 38% atheist, but 41% are still Catholic. The alternative is a saccharin happy clappy nightmare.

The evangelical conquest of Central America is a disturbing prospect, isn't it?

Deeply so.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 08:17:08 AM »

In fact, they built a new Temple of Salomón in Brasiú:



They're crazy. My two aunts have become protestants, and one of them just got divorced with 53 years and says she will never think about men anymore because it's a sin...
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2014, 11:48:40 AM »

I'd discount the 79% figure in Mexico. Mexico is overwhelmingly Catholic but the Catholic church has an increasingly tenuous hold on its followers. Mexico would have likely gone down the same path as Guatemala if aggressive anti-clerical reforms weren't instituted and the Virgin of Guadalupe wasn't vigorously promoted as a national symbol. Because Catholicism isn't tarnished with right-wing politics and oppression in Mexico, it has escaped the rapid decline experienced in other Latin American countries. Nevertheless, Catholicism is very weak among the indigenous and is becoming a more nominal faith outside of the Bajío. Census statistics and surveys can't capture this because lapsed Catholics (there are many of them) are still recorded as Catholics. Mexico is similar to Ireland in this regard.

There's a reason why Mexican-Americans are quickly becoming unchurched in the United States.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2014, 12:19:37 PM »

I'd discount the 79% figure in Mexico. Mexico is overwhelmingly Catholic but the Catholic church has an increasingly tenuous hold on its followers. Mexico would have likely gone down the same path as Guatemala if aggressive anti-clerical reforms weren't instituted and the Virgin of Guadalupe wasn't vigorously promoted as a national symbol. Because Catholicism isn't tarnished with right-wing politics and oppression in Mexico, it has escaped the rapid decline experienced in other Latin American countries. Nevertheless, Catholicism is very weak among the indigenous and is becoming a more nominal faith outside of the Bajío. Census statistics and surveys can't capture this because lapsed Catholics (there are many of them) are still recorded as Catholics. Mexico is similar to Ireland in this regard.

Ah, but as in Ireland, self-identification can be rather important and telling. Not that I disagree with what you say.

What is with 'modern religious movements' (I'm using a nice PC term Smiley ) and utterly pretentious architecture?
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2014, 12:27:42 PM »

After centuries spent under the thumb of the Whore of Babylon, the people of Central and South America are finally beginning to see the light of true Christianity. Praise the Lord!
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2014, 12:35:40 PM »

In fact, they built a new Temple of Salomón in Brasiú:



That seems...heretical, somehow, or at least in poor theological taste. It's also ugly as, well, sin.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2014, 12:52:29 PM »

What is with 'modern religious movements' (I'm using a nice PC term Smiley ) and utterly pretentious architecture?

"Pretentious" is very much not the word I'd use to describe that sort of architecture.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2014, 12:57:28 PM »

What is with 'modern religious movements' (I'm using a nice PC term Smiley ) and utterly pretentious architecture?

"Pretentious" is very much not the word I'd use to describe that sort of architecture.

Does 'vulgar' (very much as opposed to 'vernacular') come to mind for you? Because it does for me.
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2014, 01:37:24 PM »

What is with 'modern religious movements' (I'm using a nice PC term Smiley ) and utterly pretentious architecture?

"Pretentious" is very much not the word I'd use to describe that sort of architecture.

Does 'vulgar' (very much as opposed to 'vernacular') come to mind for you? Because it does for me.

I prefer hollowed.
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2014, 02:11:02 PM »

What is with 'modern religious movements' (I'm using a nice PC term Smiley ) and utterly pretentious architecture?

"Pretentious" is very much not the word I'd use to describe that sort of architecture.

Does 'vulgar' (very much as opposed to 'vernacular') come to mind for you? Because it does for me.

I prefer hollowed.

All three will do.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2014, 05:29:07 PM »

Don't know if the evangelical churches in Latin America are mostly complimentarianist or not, but if they aren't, then they are superior to Catholicism on those grounds alone. That issue is an absolute non-negotiable to me.
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2014, 05:54:03 PM »

Don't know if the evangelical churches in Latin America are mostly complimentarianist or not, but if they aren't, then they are superior to Catholicism on those grounds alone. That issue is an absolute non-negotiable to me.

Catholics are mostly nominal or harmless.
Evangelicals are hardcore social conservatives, often Theocrats.

Yet, you prefer the theocrats.
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2014, 06:02:36 PM »

Central American evangelicalism is definitely of the vulgar, far-right, unmistakably American variety.
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2014, 06:03:11 PM »

Protestants are almost a plurality in Guatemala and Honduras? Now I knew that the Evangelicals were big there, but....

Interesting that the Protestant population is still so low for Mexico in comparison.


Mexico is uneven. In Chiapas the Catholics are, I believe, under 60% by now. In Guanajuato they are well over 90%. So, it is not that the border is sharp. Then, again, evangelicals are the biggest among the native and the poor. The wealthy and educated classes tend to stay Catholic (if nominally).
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2014, 06:08:09 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2014, 06:14:19 PM by Passing Through a Screen Door »

Don't know if the evangelical churches in Latin America are mostly complimentarianist or not, but if they aren't, then they are superior to Catholicism on those grounds alone. That issue is an absolute non-negotiable to me.

Catholics are mostly nominal or harmless.
Evangelicals are hardcore social conservatives, often Theocrats.

Yet, you prefer the theocrats.

Well conservative evangelicals tend to be complimentarians as well so I'm not including them. My point is that I would never associate with a complimentarian church. Ever. Under any circumstances.

Also are you familiar with the Catholic Church in Minnesota and how it acted in 2012 and 2013 over the gay marriage battles if you want to label it "harmless"?
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