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« on: August 20, 2014, 10:08:05 PM »
« edited: August 28, 2014, 11:14:45 AM by True Federalist »

In this article, Sherrif's from counties bordering Colorado tell their sob story of having to spend money to incarcerate those in possession of Marijuana. It's not as if anyone is forcing them to arrest these people....The best part about the article was the lady who thought 13 year olds shouldn't know about weed. Seriously?

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 10:18:53 PM »

No, maybe those states should wise up and legalize marijuana too if they don't want to pay for incarceration.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 09:07:14 AM »

Huh

They are following the law.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 09:09:39 AM »

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Because it's not at all likely he already does.
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 09:10:41 AM »

Definitely think it will be part of the Republican agenda if Republicans sweep this year.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 09:17:43 AM »


What do you think of their opinion that Colorado subsidize their unproductive behavior of locking up people with Marijuana?
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 09:25:23 AM »

Definitely think it will be part of the Republican agenda if Republicans sweep this year.

I don't think even drug warriors would want the tax revenue to leave the state. If the republicans tried something, there would be a backlash. Also, are there any Rand Paul style Republicans in the legislature?
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 10:34:46 AM »

Definitely think it will be part of the Republican agenda if Republicans sweep this year.

I don't think even drug warriors would want the tax revenue to leave the state. If the republicans tried something, there would be a backlash. Also, are there any Rand Paul style Republicans in the legislature?

Not that I am aware of. The closest I know of mavericks in the GA are 2 pro-gun democrats.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 10:43:00 AM »

No, maybe those states should wise up and legalize marijuana too if they don't want to pay for incarceration.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 10:43:17 AM »

No, maybe those states should wise up and legalize marijuana too if they don't want to pay for incarceration.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 10:48:55 AM »


What do you think of their opinion that Colorado subsidize their unproductive behavior of locking up people with Marijuana?

You know that Simfan is a prohibitionist, right?
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 11:20:26 AM »

Of course not.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 11:49:36 AM »

No, maybe those states should wise up and legalize marijuana too if they don't want to pay for incarceration.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 12:33:04 PM »

What do you think of their opinion that Colorado subsidize their unproductive behavior of locking up people with Marijuana?

That sounds like the kind of socialist behavior these people are always railing against.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2014, 12:33:49 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 12:45:05 PM »

How much discretion do local sheriff departments have? I don't think Rural County, Kansas has the option of disregarding the laws that come from Topeka. I'm not at all sympathetic to prohibition, but I can see where local law enforcement may be in a difficult place as well.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 03:13:05 PM »

How much discretion do local sheriff departments have? I don't think Rural County, Kansas has the option of disregarding the laws that come from Topeka. I'm not at all sympathetic to prohibition, but I can see where local law enforcement may be in a difficult place as well.

They can always look the other way.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 03:21:57 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2014, 09:11:49 AM by Torie »

Option 3. Anyway, what the sheriff's want, is not what they will get. F them.

You know, in many places the cops don't enforce the pot laws. Why? It is a matter of priorities. Here in Hudson, you won't get arrested unless you have pot on you when arrested for something else, or smoke dope in public. It may be that the sheriffs involved really don't have enough to do, so they are left handing out tickets and looking for pot. Just how they arrest many folks with pot also escapes me, inasmuch as you need probable cause to stop a car, and then you need probable cause to search it as well. That should not happen much unless you are smoking pot in the car.

Writing this, I realize their rap does not hang together at all. They are, well, not to put too fine a point on it, blowing smoke. It's probably time to cull their ranks is my little policy suggestion.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 03:52:48 PM »

you need probably cause to stop a car, and then you need probable cause to search it as well.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 10:43:48 PM »

The problem is many of these sheriff's departments are defining "probably cause" as "has a Colorado license plate". Considering how easy it is to transport marijuana and not get caught, I doubt the increased arrests are all solely due to the greater supply. That's basically why the whole bit about the sheriff's departments not making the laws doesn't really hold up. For comparison Pennsylvania gun laws are far more lax than in New Jersey or New York, but that doesn't mean police in those states constantly pull over and search Pennsylvania cars and assume all are carrying guns.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 10:55:57 PM »

Obviously not. The other states should instead learn from Colorado and legalize already.
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 01:09:48 AM »

The problem is many of these sheriff's departments are defining "probably cause" as "has a Colorado license plate".

I had dinner with my family in Denver this summer and they were complaining about this. "Just because we're from Colorado, they think it's okay to pull us over."
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 06:44:21 AM »

The problem is many of these sheriff's departments are defining "probably cause" as "has a Colorado license plate". Considering how easy it is to transport marijuana and not get caught, I doubt the increased arrests are all solely due to the greater supply. That's basically why the whole bit about the sheriff's departments not making the laws doesn't really hold up. For comparison Pennsylvania gun laws are far more lax than in New Jersey or New York, but that doesn't mean police in those states constantly pull over and search Pennsylvania cars and assume all are carrying guns.

I take your point, but that dog just isn't going to hunt in court.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 08:48:56 AM »

The problem is many of these sheriff's departments are defining "probably cause" as "has a Colorado license plate". Considering how easy it is to transport marijuana and not get caught, I doubt the increased arrests are all solely due to the greater supply. That's basically why the whole bit about the sheriff's departments not making the laws doesn't really hold up. For comparison Pennsylvania gun laws are far more lax than in New Jersey or New York, but that doesn't mean police in those states constantly pull over and search Pennsylvania cars and assume all are carrying guns.

I take your point, but that dog just isn't going to hunt in court.

No but driving "erratically" or "looked like he wasn't wearing a seatbelt" will. It's not probable cause to search the car though. Can saying they smelt marijuana constitute probable cause to search the car?
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 05:03:51 PM »

The problem is many of these sheriff's departments are defining "probably cause" as "has a Colorado license plate". Considering how easy it is to transport marijuana and not get caught, I doubt the increased arrests are all solely due to the greater supply. That's basically why the whole bit about the sheriff's departments not making the laws doesn't really hold up. For comparison Pennsylvania gun laws are far more lax than in New Jersey or New York, but that doesn't mean police in those states constantly pull over and search Pennsylvania cars and assume all are carrying guns.

I take your point, but that dog just isn't going to hunt in court.

No but driving "erratically" or "looked like he wasn't wearing a seatbelt" will. It's not probable cause to search the car though. Can saying they smelt marijuana constitute probable cause to search the car?

Sure, if it is believed by the trier of fact that such smell was extant in the air.
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