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« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2014, 12:38:17 PM »

With six votes in the affirmative, three votes opposed, and one not voting, the Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act can be declared as having passed the Senate. It is now presented to the President for executive action.

Aye(s): President Pro Tempore TNF, Senator bore, Senator Cranberry, Senator Lumine, Senator Cynic, Senator Polnut
Nay(s): Senator Cassius, Senator Spiral, Senator North Carolina Yankee
Abstaining: None
Not voting: Senator JCL
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« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2014, 02:17:21 PM »

With six votes in the affirmative, three votes opposed, and one not voting, the Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act can be declared as having passed the Senate. It is now presented to the President for executive action.

Aye(s): President Pro Tempore TNF, Senator bore, Senator Cranberry, Senator Lumine, Senator Cynic, Senator Polnut
Nay(s): Senator Cassius, Senator Spiral, Senator North Carolina Yankee
Abstaining: None
Not voting: Senator JCL

You cannot disregard my motion to delay the final vote without considering my amendment. It has not passed as my motion to delay the final vote must be heard and voted upon.
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« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2014, 02:59:52 PM »

With six votes in the affirmative, three votes opposed, and one not voting, the Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act can be declared as having passed the Senate. It is now presented to the President for executive action.

Aye(s): President Pro Tempore TNF, Senator bore, Senator Cranberry, Senator Lumine, Senator Cynic, Senator Polnut
Nay(s): Senator Cassius, Senator Spiral, Senator North Carolina Yankee
Abstaining: None
Not voting: Senator JCL

You cannot disregard my motion to delay the final vote without considering my amendment. It has not passed as my motion to delay the final vote must be heard and voted upon.

This is just not true. The only thing the OSPR says about halting final votes is this:
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« Reply #78 on: September 08, 2014, 03:20:41 PM »

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I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.
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« Reply #79 on: September 08, 2014, 09:52:41 PM »
« Edited: September 08, 2014, 09:59:46 PM by Senator JCL and the geologist »

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I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.


I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.
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« Reply #80 on: September 08, 2014, 09:57:46 PM »

The final vote had been called. That's it.
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« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2014, 10:01:02 PM »

The final vote had been called. That's it.

I motioned for a vote to delay. TNF refused without basis. So no this isn't over whatsoever.
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« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2014, 11:25:06 PM »

The final vote had been called. That's it.

I motioned for a vote to delay. TNF refused without basis. So no this isn't over whatsoever.

You cannot motion to delay the vote, when the vote is in progress.
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« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2014, 12:56:02 AM »

Funny how many things we can do or cannot do, suddenly since JCL is in the Senate... Must have been that no one read the rules before, I guess that's the only way I can explain this...
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« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2014, 11:58:20 AM »

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I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.


I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.

"I'll huff. . . and I'll puff. . . and I'll. . ."

JCL, the procedure is so clear that I cannot imagine what's preventing you from grasping it.

1. You cannot stop a final vote to propose an amendment.

2. The PPT does not have to stop a final vote. In 18 months I've not seen it.

3. When you decided to ask that it be stopped, it had already concluded anyway.
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« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2014, 01:31:49 PM »

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I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.


I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.

"I'll huff. . . and I'll puff. . . and I'll. . ."

JCL, the procedure is so clear that I cannot imagine what's preventing you from grasping it.

1. You cannot stop a final vote to propose an amendment.

2. The PPT does not have to stop a final vote. In 18 months I've not seen it.

3. When you decided to ask that it be stopped, it had already concluded anyway.

I motioned for delay while the vote was still going on not after.
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« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2014, 04:16:11 PM »

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X DemPGH, President



I think this is a wise and necessary step to take. One of the things that we need in order to push green technology and green energy to the next level and beyond is an impetus. The corporate largely doesn't care about environmentally friendly measures and research because they're making money selling something that's not environmentally friendly. The problem is that it's neither sustainable nor inexhaustible, so it's time to take measures that push renewable energy to the next level. The government saying that it will not be an enabler is a good preliminary step.


I contest the final vote as I had proposed an amendment and motioned to delay a final vote. That motion to delay must be respected thus this is not worth the paper it was written upon.

"I'll huff. . . and I'll puff. . . and I'll. . ."

JCL, the procedure is so clear that I cannot imagine what's preventing you from grasping it.

1. You cannot stop a final vote to propose an amendment.

2. The PPT does not have to stop a final vote. In 18 months I've not seen it.

3. When you decided to ask that it be stopped, it had already concluded anyway.

I motioned for delay while the vote was still going on not after.

And the senate rules are such that only the President of the Senate, and no one else, can stop a vote. You do not have the power to halt the vote just by making a motion.
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« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2014, 06:14:34 PM »

Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.
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« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2014, 01:29:11 PM »

Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.

Which is what I did. And as such dispute this bills passage.
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« Reply #89 on: September 12, 2014, 04:25:43 PM »

Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.

Which is what I did. And as such dispute this bills passage.

I dispute that you understand the Senate rules. And I'm fairly confident in that, given your total inability to act in any manner that would suggest anything to the contrary.
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« Reply #90 on: September 12, 2014, 06:16:04 PM »

Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.

Which is what I did. And as such dispute this bills passage.

I dispute that you understand the Senate rules. And I'm fairly confident in that, given your total inability to act in any manner that would suggest anything to the contrary.

Perhaps he is just disputing the choice made "under your discretion" on the matter.

I would love to assist him in any areas of deficiency regarding the rules if such exist, but unfortunately, I cannot just scream at my computer screen "GRANT ME ACCESS" and be able to get on the Atlas. I would have done it August 6th if I could. Tongue
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