am i a legit socialist

[courts]

just curious never make polls about myself obvsly

[New_Conservative]

I just voted yes on accident, but I don't think so.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lolno

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Not a legit one, no.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I don't believe that socialism has a pope who can decide this sort of thing, but obviously not.

[Sopranos Republican]

I don't believe that socialism has a pope who can decide this sort of thing, but obviously not.

Al, let's be real here. You are the pope of socialism.

[The Dowager Mod]

Not even close.

[H. Ross Peron]

Arguably yes but not of the Marxist variety.

[Adam Griffin]

Whenever we last discussed politics, you struck me as someone who believes in socialist values but not in socialist systems.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

"Socialist" is always made out to be such a bad word, but any country with a substantial safety net has already embraced at least some tenets of socialism.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

"Socialist" is always made out to be such a bad word, but any country with a substantial safety net has already embraced at least some tenets of socialism.

I don't know, that runs the risk of the entire term being rendered meaningless. Like when libertarians call everyone "statist".

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

"Socialist" is always made out to be such a bad word, but any country with a substantial safety net has already embraced at least some tenets of socialism.

Welfare statism is not socialism.

[TNF]

"Socialist" is always made out to be such a bad word, but any country with a substantial safety net has already embraced at least some tenets of socialism.

No it hasn't. Socialism is the replacement of capitalist ownership of the means of production with worker ownership and command of the means of production. It is not 'everything a government does' or 'any social program enacted by a government.' Unless power relations are flipped in favor of the working class, the country in question is not socialist.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Has there ever been a truly socialist country? Even in the USSR and their puppet states, the ruling class had all the power and wealth, the ruling class being the leaders of the communist party, and the workers were terrorized and lived relatively poor lives. The same goes for many other communist countries except maybe Cuba.

[TNF]

Has there ever been a truly socialist country? Even in the USSR and their puppet states, the ruling class had all the power and wealth, the ruling class being the leaders of the communist party, and the workers were terrorized and lived relatively poor lives. The same goes for many other communist countries except maybe Cuba.

The USSR was a socialist society for a little while, but it ultimately degenerated into rule by bureaucracy, as was the case in all of it's periphery states (although most of those were never 'socialist' in the first place, unlike the USSR in its foundational period). But that's not to say there haven't been a lot of examples of genuinely socialist societies throughout the years; the Paris Commune, Revolutionary Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War, and the movements to establish real socialist societies in the eastern bloc in Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia (and elsewhere) in 1968, or the May '68 movement in France. Unfortunately the defeat of the German Revolution by none other than the social democrats (working in concert with brutal reactionary thugs) essentially sealed the fate of the USSR because the revolution was confined to one geographic area and strangled from without (by means of economic warfare) and fell from within (with the rise of Stalinism and rule by the bureaucracy).

[bore]

Arguably yes but not of the Marxist variety.

Perhaps more of the National variety