Women in Combat

[H. Ross Peron]

Yes (D)

[dead0man]

95% of the time it's fine, an improvement even in the top special forces echelon (imagine how much easier it would to be all sneaky if you were a lady instead of a dude), I think that the "we don't want womens in the fox hole with us" is overblown and women already are in some combat positions.

...but physical and mental standards shouldn't be lowered to make it happen.

[MurrayBannerman]

There are some logistical problems and potential restrictions, but as a general point, yes.

[The Dowager Mod]

I would have re enlisted if they had let me into combat.

[ElectionsGuy]

Of course.

[TDAS04]

Of course.

[TNF]

Yes (not a sexist)

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

No, but I don't believe men should be allowed to take combat roles either.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yes (not a sexist)

[Goldwater]

Yes, and like dead0man said they should be held to the same physical standards as men.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Anyone, man or woman, should be able to serve if they can handle it. But no special treatment should be made.

[Never]

Yes, and like dead0man said they should be held to the same physical standards as men.

[Mr. Morden]

...but physical and mental standards shouldn't be lowered to make it happen.

Out of curiosity, are the standards currently the same in the US military?  Do they have different physical requirements for men and women?

[dead0man]

...but physical and mental standards shouldn't be lowered to make it happen.

Out of curiosity, are the standards currently the same in the US military?  Do they have different physical requirements for men and women?

When I joined (Dec94) to get in there were no physical requirements for any of the branches except, oddly, the Air Force which required everybody to lift some sorta low amount (say, 35lbs...I don't really remember).  You had to pass a "limber" test in MEPS (military in processing), but that wasn't that big of a deal.  During basic there were different requirements for men and women to graduate.  I don't remember the details, but say a male had to do the mile in 9min, women got 10:30...if males had to do 3 pullups, women only had to do 1...60 pushups in 2 min for men, 40 for women...that kind of thing.  If memory serves, Marines recently upped their requirements for women to match the men, but then most women failed.

The vast majority of people in the military don't do "combat".

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Yes, and we should have them register for Selective Service as well.

[angus]

I know some very combative women, so yes.  

[© tweed]

Yes, and we should have them register for Selective Service as well.

a funny thought just came into my head - if the trans rights movement continues to advance, will it be possible for me to register myself as a female on my drivers' license, etc. and thus avoid risk of being drafted?

[Simfan34]

Yes, and like dead0man said they should be held to the same physical standards as men.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Yes, and we should have them register for Selective Service as well.

a funny thought just came into my head - if the trans rights movement continues to advance, will it be possible for me to register myself as a female on my drivers' license, etc. and thus avoid risk of being drafted?

I suppose it would

tweed, you've been on here long enough that unless we get into a total war where we need to draft a couple hundred divisions of infantry, you should be old enough to avoid the draft.

[Person Man]

95% of the time it's fine, an improvement even in the top special forces echelon (imagine how much easier it would to be all sneaky if you were a lady instead of a dude), I think that the "we don't want womens in the fox hole with us" is overblown and women already are in some combat positions.

...but physical and mental standards shouldn't be lowered to make it happen.

Though I would think it would be more of a physical issue. There's more overlap than you think in terms of whose dark, obedient and though enough for the job. However, its reasonable to think that where half of all men can probably be trained up to be strong enough, only 1-5% of women can be. Its very tough for girls to pullups, but out of every 10-20 I see in the gym, there is one that can do as many as a man.

[dead0man]

95% of the time it's fine, an improvement even in the top special forces echelon (imagine how much easier it would to be all sneaky if you were a lady instead of a dude), I think that the "we don't want womens in the fox hole with us" is overblown and women already are in some combat positions.

...but physical and mental standards shouldn't be lowered to make it happen.

Though I would think it would be more of a physical issue. There's more overlap than you think in terms of whose dark, obedient and though enough for the job.

I have no clue what you're trying to say here, especially the "dark" part.

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Agreed.

[Lurker]

It should be decided on an individual basis. Any woman who is physically strong enough  for whatever role she apllies for should obviously be allowed to serve. Concerns that this will harm the morale of the troops or ideas that women are meant to fight wars are nothing but outdated BS.

[ElectionsGuy]

Funnily, this is actually something that Pat Buchanan railed against in his famous 1992 RNC speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pICypNXHKbg

(4:10)

[MATTROSE94]

There are some logistical problems and potential restrictions, but as a general point, yes.

[Person Man]

95% of the time it's fine, an improvement even in the top special forces echelon (imagine how much easier it would to be all sneaky if you were a lady instead of a dude), I think that the "we don't want womens in the fox hole with us" is overblown and women already are in some combat positions.

...but physical and mental standards shouldn't be lowered to make it happen.

Though I would think it would be more of a physical issue. There's more overlap than you think in terms of whose dark, obedient and though enough for the job.

I have no clue what you're trying to say here, especially the "dark" part.

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Agreed.

I meant to say is that there will be some, but few women who can do combat...but they are around. Mental/emotional differences won't be as much as a challenge as people think.