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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2014, 09:52:21 PM »

I wonder how Carson would appeal to African Americans and to withe racists.
If he runs against a Southern Democrat (say Clinton), he might even lose Mississippi, which has been trending (media) blue for a long time.
The election map would look odd ...

When in the holy hell has MS been trending media blue?Huh? Oh, and way to race bait
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2014, 10:04:56 PM »

I wonder how Carson would appeal to African Americans and to withe racists.
If he runs against a Southern Democrat (say Clinton), he might even lose Mississippi, which has been trending (media) blue for a long time.
The election map would look odd ...

When in the holy hell has MS been trending media blue?Huh? Oh, and way to race bait

Um...

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2014, 11:11:51 PM »

I wonder how Carson would appeal to African Americans and to withe racists.
If he runs against a Southern Democrat (say Clinton), he might even lose Mississippi, which has been trending (media) blue for a long time.
The election map would look odd ...

When in the holy hell has MS been trending media blue?Huh? Oh, and way to race bait

LoL.
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2014, 11:35:07 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2014, 07:22:29 PM by MATTROSE94 »

This is what the map between Ben Carson and Hillary Clinton could potentially look like IMO (especially if Carson runs a particularly bad campaign):


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 428 Electoral Votes
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R-MD)/Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA): 110 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2014, 12:14:46 PM »

I wonder how Carson would appeal to African Americans and to withe racists.
If he runs against a Southern Democrat (say Clinton), he might even lose Mississippi, which has been trending (media) blue for a long time.
The election map would look odd ...

I don't think racists would have a problem voting for a black person as long as they disowned their own race.

I keep forgetting that any Black Republican who doesn't obey White liberals' handbook for how Black people should think is disowning his or her own race.  Wow, seems like kind of a racist line of thought at first, but then I feel silly because I remember that the Laws of Physics prevent liberals from being racist.
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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2014, 01:31:49 PM »

This is what the map between Ben Carson and Hillary Clinton could potentially look like IMO (especially if Carson runs a particularly bad campaign):


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 420 Electoral Votes
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R-MD)/Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA): 118 Electoral Votes

Lol why in the world would he pick Santorum?
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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2014, 01:33:38 PM »

This is what the map between Ben Carson and Hillary Clinton could potentially look like IMO (especially if Carson runs a particularly bad campaign):


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 420 Electoral Votes
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R-MD)/Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA): 118 Electoral Votes

Lol why in the world would he pick Santorum?
I wasn't really sure on a running-mate for Carson and figured that Santorum would have been the most likely choice for him.
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2014, 02:39:39 PM »

This is what the map between Ben Carson and Hillary Clinton could potentially look like IMO (especially if Carson runs a particularly bad campaign):


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 420 Electoral Votes
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R-MD)/Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA): 118 Electoral Votes

Lol why in the world would he pick Santorum?
I wasn't really sure on a running-mate for Carson and figured that Santorum would have been the most likely choice for him.

Carson is very conservative, but I suspect he is the kind of candidate who would be willing to choose a more moderate running mate in order to balance the ticket. Cathy McMorris Rodgers wouldn't overshadow him too much, and neither would Kelly Ayotte; unfortunately I'm not sure how the Republican base would accept a ticket comprised of a black man and a white woman Sad

Also, one comment about your map: why wouldn't Louisiana vote Democratic in your map, especially since Hillary Clinton is the party's nominee? Louisiana is more urban than Mississippi, and both have a significant minority presence, so if the latter flips, the former should as well.
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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2014, 03:33:03 PM »

This is what the map between Ben Carson and Hillary Clinton could potentially look like IMO (especially if Carson runs a particularly bad campaign):


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA): 420 Electoral Votes
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R-MD)/Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA): 118 Electoral Votes

Lol why in the world would he pick Santorum?
I wasn't really sure on a running-mate for Carson and figured that Santorum would have been the most likely choice for him.

Carson is very conservative, but I suspect he is the kind of candidate who would be willing to choose a more moderate running mate in order to balance the ticket. Cathy McMorris Rodgers wouldn't overshadow him too much, and neither would Kelly Ayotte; unfortunately I'm not sure how the Republican base would accept a ticket comprised of a black man and a white woman Sad

Also, one comment about your map: why wouldn't Louisiana vote Democratic in your map, especially since Hillary Clinton is the party's nominee? Louisiana is more urban than Mississippi, and both have a significant minority presence, so if the latter flips, the former should as well.
Good point about Louisiana. If Hilary Clinton is carrying Mississippi, she would probably win Louisiana as well.
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2014, 03:43:59 PM »

For all we know he could have the same positions as Ted Cruz or be a quieter version of Allen West it's very difficult to see how well someone would do when they've taken so little policy positions. All we really right now is he doesn't like Obama or Obamacare and doesn't believe in evolution either.
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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2014, 03:55:25 PM »

I can't see him winning. He's one of my more preferred Republicans right now (he's not annoying to me).
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2014, 04:15:45 PM »

I wonder how Carson would appeal to African Americans and to withe racists.
If he runs against a Southern Democrat (say Clinton), he might even lose Mississippi, which has been trending (media) blue for a long time.
The election map would look odd ...

I don't think racists would have a problem voting for a black person as long as they disowned their own race.

I keep forgetting that any Black Republican who doesn't obey White liberals' handbook for how Black people should think is disowning his or her own race.  Wow, seems like kind of a racist line of thought at first, but then I feel silly because I remember that the Laws of Physics prevent liberals from being racist.

There's a reason why most prominent black Republicans tend to be like Allen West and Herman Cain, as opposed to say, Colin Powell.
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2014, 05:37:09 PM »
« Edited: August 27, 2014, 05:40:45 PM by Zyzz »

Would be fun to see the trend map between 2012 (black Democrat vs. white Republican) and 2016 (black Republican vs. white Democrat).


Take a look at the totally non racist results in Northern Louisiana in the 2003 Gubernatorial election. The brown Republican Jindal mysteriously lost a bunch of very conservative counties in the north of the state.

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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2014, 11:03:53 PM »

Carson is very conservative, but I suspect he is the kind of candidate who would be willing to choose a more moderate running mate in order to balance the ticket. Cathy McMorris Rodgers wouldn't overshadow him too much, and neither would Kelly Ayotte; unfortunately I'm not sure how the Republican base would accept a ticket comprised of a black man and a white woman Sad

Also, one comment about your map: why wouldn't Louisiana vote Democratic in your map, especially since Hillary Clinton is the party's nominee? Louisiana is more urban than Mississippi, and both have a significant minority presence, so if the latter flips, the former should as well.

Nah, Carson is a complete fool and novice when it comes to politics and believes his generic far right paternalistic nonsense actually reflects the views of mainstream Americans if only they weren’t distorted by the politically correct media, etc.  I could see him thinking someone like Santorum would be a perfect fit actually.



I suppose it depends on how you look at it. Reagan was basically a celebrity politician, yet even he felt it was a good idea to balance his ticket with George H.W. Bush. Carson might surprise us all with his vice-presidential pick if he somehow becomes the Republican nominee. I just don't see Santorum as being the perfect fit for Carson (a plausible fit, yes...). Santorum seems more combative than Carson, and some of Santorum's past comments, like calling President Obama a snob regarding the subject of college education, probably wouldn't align with Carson's way of thinking.
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