Waiting for the 538 real model about Senate and Governor races...

[Senator Cris]

Enten said that 538 "should release the real model before September".

[Antonio the Sixth]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

[Dixie Reborn]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

[Senator Cris]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

No. I think that isn't for this.

[Penelope]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

[dmmidmi]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

Election forecasting and predictions is what made Mr. Silver famous--whether or not he realizes it, that is what his appeal is built upon. Instead, he's traveling the country to find America's Best Burrito.

[Free Bird]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

And sports, which none of his early friends care about

[dmmidmi]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

And sports, which none of his early friends care about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PECOTA
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2659

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

Election forecasting and predictions is what made Mr. Silver famous--whether or not he realizes it, that is what his appeal is built upon. Instead, he's traveling the country to find America's Best Burrito.

Under flawed methodology too.

[IceSpear]

Didn't Nate state a while ago he didn't really care about 2014 since it would "be boring"? I think he's forgotten what gave him his prominence.

[7,052,770]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

[Never]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

[GaussLaw]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Agreed.  The World Cup series was fantastic.

538 needs a sports section, and it definitely needs a Life/Science section.

[RogueBeaver]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

[dmmidmi]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Agreed.  The World Cup series was fantastic.

538 needs a sports section, and it definitely needs a Life/Science section.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/sports/

They have an affiliation with ESPN--even though most of the FiveThirtyEight articles probably fly over the heads of a large share of ESPN's viewership.

Their sports section could probably be stronger--Nate first got people's attention by developing PECOTA, and has repeatedly exhibited that he's incredibly knowledgeable about baseball. However, their NFL season previews are pretty thorough, as was their article about Tim Duncan's value to the Spurs over the course of his career.

But, articles about measuring the speed of NFL teams, and then going on to say that it really isn't all that important, is kind of a head-scratcher.

[Senator Cris]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

Election forecasting and predictions is what made Mr. Silver famous--whether or not he realizes it, that is what his appeal is built upon. Instead, he's traveling the country to find America's Best Burrito.

[GaussLaw]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Agreed.  The World Cup series was fantastic.

538 needs a sports section, and it definitely needs a Life/Science section.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/sports/

They have an affiliation with ESPN--even though most of the FiveThirtyEight articles probably fly over the heads of a large share of ESPN's viewership.

Their sports section could probably be stronger--Nate first got people's attention by developing PECOTA, and has repeatedly exhibited that he's incredibly knowledgeable about baseball. However, their NFL season previews are pretty thorough, as was their article about Tim Duncan's value to the Spurs over the course of his career.

But, articles about measuring the speed of NFL teams, and then going on to say that it really isn't all that important, is kind of a head-scratcher.

I know 538 has a sports section.  I was just praising the new 538 format in which it covers more than just politics.

[Penelope]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Agreed.  The World Cup series was fantastic.

538 needs a sports section, and it definitely needs a Life/Science section.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/sports/

They have an affiliation with ESPN--even though most of the FiveThirtyEight articles probably fly over the heads of a large share of ESPN's viewership.

Their sports section could probably be stronger--Nate first got people's attention by developing PECOTA, and has repeatedly exhibited that he's incredibly knowledgeable about baseball. However, their NFL season previews are pretty thorough, as was their article about Tim Duncan's value to the Spurs over the course of his career.

But, articles about measuring the speed of NFL teams, and then going on to say that it really isn't all that important, is kind of a head-scratcher.

I know 538 has a sports section.  I was just praising the new 538 format in which it covers more than just politics.

I do like that FiveThirtyEight is currently covering more than just politics - I also really loved their World Cup series - but I'd much prefer they release an official model similar to the one they had back in 2012. The unscheduled updates on the midterms are a little underwhelming to be honest.

[Lurker]

This new 538 is really made of fail. And I say this as one of Nate's earliest fans.

Are you only saying that because it doesn't show Democrats to have an advantage?

I think he's saying that because the new 538 has still not launched their official model of the 2014 midterm elections - yet they still have time to run articles about the statistical accuracy of tarot readers and the effects of binge-watching the Simpsons on the human brain.

Election forecasting and predictions is what made Mr. Silver famous--whether or not he realizes it, that is what his appeal is built upon. Instead, he's traveling the country to find America's Best Burrito.

Under flawed methodology too.

What methodology? Effectively it amounts to nothing little more than one woman tasting 64 different burritos (or something like that) and deciding which one she likes the best. Though that's not even the worst, or least interesting, part of the new 538...

[IceSpear]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Maybe they have a time and place before, but the fact that very few of the articles are about politics when we're two months away from an election is shameful. And I find it hard to believe that people who are big enough political junkies to have tens of thousands of posts on the Atlas Forum are more interested in rating burritos as opposed to political analysis.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Still no sign of the real model, and it'll be September on the east coast in an hour and 17 minutes. Instead of releasing the model today, 538 is promoting an article elsewhere on the web about limited toilet access in third-world countries.

[Never]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Maybe they have a time and place before, but the fact that very few of the articles are about politics when we're two months away from an election is shameful. And I find it hard to believe that people who are big enough political junkies to have tens of thousands of posts on the Atlas Forum are more interested in rating burritos as opposed to political analysis.

I guess that's what happens to a site when it's owned by ESPN. I mean, it's not like political junkies are the only audience FiveThirtyEight is trying to serve. I'm fine with the site as now it is because politics isn't my only avid interest. I'd probably end up rather unhinged if that were my only focus. Burritos and sports are a welcome diversion, and even the most politically obsessed posters here would probably find Mona Chalabi's articles interesting. I don't think I'd visit FiveThirtyEight daily if it just rehashed political updates constantly with only minor tweaking; my distaste of tireless repitition in the news is the same reason why I only find it necessary to visit Upshot once or twice a week.

[GaussLaw]

Personally, I find 538's current set articles way more interesting than yet another update of "who do we think is gonna win today!!!!1"

Maybe they have a time and place before, but the fact that very few of the articles are about politics when we're two months away from an election is shameful. And I find it hard to believe that people who are big enough political junkies to have tens of thousands of posts on the Atlas Forum are more interested in rating burritos as opposed to political analysis.

I guess that's what happens to a site when it's owned by ESPN. I mean, it's not like political junkies are the only audience FiveThirtyEight is trying to serve. I'm fine with the site as now it is because politics isn't my only avid interest. I'd probably end up rather unhinged if that were my only focus. Burritos and sports are a welcome diversion, and even the most politically obsessed posters here would probably find Mona Chalabi's articles interesting. I don't think I'd visit FiveThirtyEight daily if it just rehashed political updates constantly with only minor tweaking; my distaste of tireless repitition in the news is the same reason why I only find it necessary to visit Upshot once or twice a week.

Yeah, but I check Upshot Senate rankings daily, as I take them pretty seriously (sorry, KCDem).  But there's only so much original content you can have daily for political stuff.