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« on: August 27, 2014, 07:47:09 AM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11057775/Nine-year-old-American-girl-accidentally-kills-shooting-instructor-with-Uzi-submachine-gun.html

God bless American freedom!
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 07:49:08 AM »

"People kill people"
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 07:49:49 AM »

What business does a nine year old have with an Uzi? I don't think this was what Jefferson was talking about...
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 07:50:59 AM »

What business does a nine year old have with an Uzi? I don't think this was what Jefferson was talking about...

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 09:31:52 AM »

Dumb people play with guns. They die.

If a nine-year-old went on a rampage with an Uzi, this might be noteworthy. As it stands, this story is no different than the gangland murders we ignore on a daily basis.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 09:35:07 AM »


Indeed. These regrettable incidents are merely the price that must be paid to protect freedom.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 09:38:01 AM »

A 9-year old with an Uzi ?

The. US. is. nuts.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 09:40:12 AM »

To be fair, it's important that children have good marksmanship so we avoid situations like this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/woman-shot-head-b15-bus-article-1.1728690
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 09:42:40 AM »

People under, say, 16 shouldn't be able to shoot automatic weapons.  Even on a range, even with parental approval and a shooting instructor.


You may now go back to making jokes.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 10:06:08 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2014, 10:10:18 AM by Governor Varavour »

Dumb people play with guns. They die.

If a nine-year-old went on a rampage with an Uzi, this might be noteworthy. As it stands, this story is no different than the gangland murders we ignore on a daily basis.

Who was the dumb person playing with guns here that died? The kid? Why can't the child handle a gun? Can it possibly be because she is a child?

People under, say, 16 shouldn't be able to shoot automatic weapons.  Even on a range, even with parental approval and a shooting instructor.

You may now go back to making jokes.

No one is making jokes. Children under sixteen should not be allowed to use guns, period. Automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be banned outright.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 10:07:27 AM »

Remember, only the police should have guns. That's REAL freedom, you dumb Americans!




Being an unsafe instructor sure does.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 10:12:45 AM »

They should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

What is wrong with you? None of these people should have guns, ideally. But I am far more comfortable with the police having guns rather than literal children. I am sure no one denies far more people are shot dead by minors every year than by the police.
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 10:17:55 AM »

There were 8 posts before mine, 5 of those were jokes.  You're not making jokes, true, but there are plenty of people that are.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2014, 10:18:15 AM »

They should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

What is wrong with you? None of these people should have guns, ideally. But I am far more comfortable with the police having guns rather than literal children. I am sure no one denies far more people are shot dead by minors every year than by the police.
You're kidding, right? You really think little kids with legally owned weapons kill more people than the police?

And the girl didn't own the gun. She went to a gun range which by the sound of it was pretty unsafe. I don't think the instructor should've given it to her at all.
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2014, 10:22:30 AM »

They should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

What is wrong with you? None of these people should have guns, ideally. But I am far more comfortable with the police having guns rather than literal children. I am sure no one denies far more people are shot dead by minors every year than by the police.
You're kidding, right? You really think little kids with legally owned weapons kill more people than the police?

And the girl didn't own the gun. She went to a gun range which by the sound of it was pretty unsafe. I don't think the instructor should've given it to her at all.

What is the relevance of "legally owned weapons" here? I never made that qualification. To talk about homicdes committed with "legally owned weapons" is deflecting the point. Nor did I say "little kids", either.

I don't know how this is remotely tolerable.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2014, 10:23:37 AM »

Children under sixteen should not be allowed to use guns, period.
12 year old children have been shooting .22s since forever with few problems.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 10:25:13 AM »

There's no reason all but a handful of civilians should be so heavily armed; this isn't Somalia.
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2014, 10:37:30 AM »

There's no reason all but a handful of civilians should be so heavily armed; this isn't Somalia.
Very very few people are "so heavily armed"...and most of those are companies like the one in the story, the vast majority don't have 9 year old children killing instructors.  It's not easy to get an automatic weapon license and the guns themselves are stupid expensive.  The relatively cheap Uzi starts at $500ish for a crappy one shooting .22lr rounds.  A nice 9mm version will run you into the several of thousands.  Something more fun like a M249 SAW start at 8 large and go up from there.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 10:47:55 AM »

Dumb parents, nine year olds shouldn't use automatic weapons, that's ridiculous. Stories like this are truly tragic and they almost always lie on the parents. If you saw the video (which cuts off right before the death of the instructor) you'll notice that she lost control of the gun and it went to her left to shoot the guy.
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 11:07:42 AM »

The instructor was an idiot who got what was coming to him.

The parents are idiots for letting their 9 year old near that thing to begin with.

Sterilize the parents so they can't pass their idiocy on to another generation. Sterilize the girl so she can't either.

Hopefully Darwin will work his magic in the long run and our country will be rid if these idiots for good.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2014, 11:22:10 AM »

The kid couldn't handle the gun. She's not to blame. "Got what was coming to him?" What is wrong with you? What is wrong with all of you?
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2014, 11:30:49 AM »

The instructor was an idiot who got what was coming to him.

The parents are idiots for letting their 9 year old near that thing to begin with.

Sterilize the parents so they can't pass their idiocy on to another generation. Sterilize the girl so she can't either.

Hopefully Darwin will work his magic in the long run and our country will be rid if these idiots for good.

Why? Clearly she didn't mean to and this will haunt her for the rest of her life. I would think she would learn from this and rebel against (what in my opinion is) her gun nut parents.
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2014, 11:31:01 AM »

They should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

Your bizarre "arm only the rich" argument is somewhat worrying, Simfan.
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2014, 11:36:43 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2014, 11:40:49 AM by Governor Varavour »

They should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

Your bizarre "arm only the rich" argument is somewhat worrying, Simfan.

Why? They should be protected from people like TNF, seatown, Bandit, and their Occupier ilk. For the rest of us, it should be banned, across the board.
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2014, 11:43:04 AM »

They should be banned, maybe except for certain people paying above a certain (very high) amount of taxes.

Your bizarre "arm only the rich" argument is somewhat worrying, Simfan.

Why? They should be protected from people like TNF, seatown, Bandit, and their Occupier ilk. For the rest of us, it should be banned, across the board.

Well, that's... unique...
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