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Question: Who would you have voted for?
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Andrew Jackson (Democratic)
 
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Henry Clay (National Republican)
 
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William Wirt (Anti-Masonic)
 
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« on: August 27, 2014, 10:38:31 AM »
« edited: August 27, 2014, 10:52:54 AM by ElectionsGuy »

1804: 85.7% Thomas Jefferson
1808: 50.0% George Clinton
1816: 69.2% James Monroe
1820: 60.0% James Monroe
1828: 48.0% John Q. Adams
1844: 50.0% James Birney
1852: 69.2% John Hale
1864: 71.4% Abraham Lincoln
1868: 77.1% Ulysses Grant
1872: 65.4% Ulysses Grant
1888: 51.6% Grover Cleveland
1896: 32.5% John Palmer
1904: 51.4% Theodore Roosevelt
1912: 37.5% William Taft
1944: 56.8% Franklin Roosevelt
1948: 35.7% Harry Truman
1952: 63.9% Dwight Eisenhower
1964: 49.2% Lyndon Johnson
1968: 44.4% Hubert Humphrey
1980: 26.2% Ronald Reagan
2008: 53.8% Barack Obama


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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 12:07:43 PM »

Difficult decision. On the one hand, Jackson's Indian policy, handling of South Carolina's nullification, and questionable tactics toward removing the Second National Bank demonstrate the man to be unfit for holding the executive office. On the other hand, voting for Clay is a tacit endorsement of his neo-mercantilist economic policy. Wirt may have some of Clay's flaws but also is sympathetic for his defense of the Cherokee. Voting for Jackson advances the career of Van Buren, but having someone at the helm willing to properly handle economic policy would avoid saddling Van Buren with a depression for the entirety of his presidency (but of course Clay or Wirt would reauthorize the Second Bank and thus make the Independent Treasury an impossibility).
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 12:17:58 PM »

Clay, enthusiastically.  Jackson is one of my least favorite Presidents we've ever had, and I probably would have hated him even more back then.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 12:26:37 PM »

Clay, enthusiastically.  Jackson is one of my least favorite Presidents we've ever had, and I probably would have hated him even more back then.

Universal white male suffrage was quite unpopular in New England with the fiscally conservative, socially liberal upper-class types, so that makes sense.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 12:27:04 PM »

Clay.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 12:28:05 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 01:05:31 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 01:36:08 PM »

Clay, enthusiastically.  Jackson is one of my least favorite Presidents we've ever had, and I probably would have hated him even more back then.

Universal white male suffrage was quite unpopular in New England with the fiscally conservative, socially liberal upper-class types, so that makes sense.

Yes, that's why I hate him, you nailed me.  Not his horrifically racist views or his savage policy toward American Indians.
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 03:43:24 PM »

Jackson was the far preferable choice in this race.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 04:39:48 PM »


One has to remember that voting rights was a state-based issue, thus making who was President irrelevant in that regard.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 05:35:43 PM »

Jackson.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 06:38:04 PM »

handling of South Carolina's nullification

What else was he supposed to do? Let states openly defy federal law?

That aside, this race is underpinned by the Bank War. I'm of the opinion that Jackson's attitude towards the Bank would cause the Panics that stalked Van Buren's Presidency. I'd vote Clay to avoid that, although I admire Jackson in some ways (aside from the huge and awful stain of his Indian policy).
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 07:11:12 PM »

handling of South Carolina's nullification

What else was he supposed to do? Let states openly defy federal law?

While there is not a specific provision for states doing so under the Constitution, neither is the federal government authorized to threaten the states with military invasion if they fail to enforce federal taxes.

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While the Panic of 1837 could be attributed to Jackson's monetary policy, that had more to do with placing federal assets in inflationary state banks than with abolishing the Bank per se.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2014, 07:22:22 PM »

To be fair to Jackson, Clay was also a racist slaveowner with a genocidal attitude toward the Native Americans.

Not sure about my Clay vote; maybe I'd vote for neither. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2014, 07:38:19 PM »

Changed my vote to Wirt. 
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2014, 09:17:57 PM »

To be fair to Jackson, Clay was also a racist slaveowner with a genocidal attitude toward the Native Americans.

Not sure about my Clay vote; maybe I'd vote for neither. 

Clay was a little less vocal than Jackson plus his party would be less of a help in achieving said genocidal Indian policies.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 11:15:31 PM »


Voting rights aren't up to the President at this stage in history, they are up to the state legislatures, so I don't see how voting for Jackson makes a difference. 

I can't vote for Jackson given his disregard for the rule of law at every stage of his career.  Wirt isn't a bad guy, but his policies are pretty much the same as Clay's, only his party is full of conspiracy nuts - some of them quite militant.  So Clay it is.
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