DNC response to Rand Paul's op-ed

[Matty]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

[Cobbler]

Not surprising. The Democrats have been adopting Bush policies over the entire Obama administration, why not adopt the tactics?

[ElectionsGuy]

Not surprising. The Democrats have been adopting Bush policies over the entire Obama administration, why not adopt the tactics?

[Rockefeller GOP]

Again, it is neither liberal nor conservative, right wing nor left wing to be an interventionist or isolationist.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Wow. I agree with the DNC.

[Lief 🗽]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

[Matty]

Rand Paul is not an isolationist.

[whanztastic]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

Because of Iraq? IDK either.

Rand Paul is not an isolationist.

He just talks like one and said should end all foreign aid.

[SPC]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

Robert La Follette and William Borah were not progressives?

[SWE]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

Because of Iraq? IDK either.

Rand Paul is not an isolationist.

He just talks like one and said should end all foreign aid.

no he doesn't lmao

[Rockefeller GOP]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

Robert La Follette and William Borah were not progressives?

Not everyone fits every generalization.

[RR1997]

Wow. I agree with the DNC.

[whanztastic]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

Because of Iraq? IDK either.

Rand Paul is not an isolationist.

He just talks like one and said should end all foreign aid.

no he doesn't lmao

Great argument.

[Dixie Reborn]

Not surprising. The Democrats have been adopting Bush policies over the entire Obama administration, why not adopt the tactics?

[SPC]

American progressives/liberals have never supported isolationism. I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this response to Rand Paul's insane foreign policy views.

Robert La Follette and William Borah were not progressives?

Not everyone fits every generalization.

That "generalization" crosses the line into "fabrication" when such individuals are amongthe most prominent leaders of the movement for a substantial period of time.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

Disgusting, although not as awful as the Democrats who opposed the Iraq War, but will suddenly discover their inner neo-con if Hillary is nominated.

[IceSpear]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

Disgusting, although not as awful as the Democrats who opposed the Iraq War, but will suddenly discover their inner neo-con if Hillary is nominated.

Biden, Reid, Harkin, Kerry, Edwards, Dorgan, Cantwell, and Kohl all voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Are they all neocons as well? It's not as though Hillary is the only one (either in terms of politicians or regular citizens) who flip flopped on this issue, as it used to have overwhelming support.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

Disgusting, although not as awful as the Democrats who opposed the Iraq War, but will suddenly discover their inner neo-con if Hillary is nominated.

Biden, Reid, Harkin, Kerry, Edwards, Dorgan, Cantwell, and Kohl all voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Are they all neocons as well? It's not as though Hillary is the only one (either in terms of politicians or regular citizens) who flip flopped on this issue, as it used to have overwhelming support.

She's not a neo-con just because she supported the Iraq War (and still refuses to acknowledge it was a mistake).  I'm talking about her entire foreign policy record.  Also, I'm not sure that John Edwards is someone who want to be comparing Hillary to when you defend her   As for the Senators you mentioned, obviously most of them aren't (although Biden is definitely a liberal interventionist which has some significant overlap with neo-conservatism).  However, Lieberman, Schumer, Feinstein, and Bayh arguably are to varying degrees (especially the first two) and they also voted for the Iraq War.  Additionally, many of the Democrats who supported it were conservaDems like Landrieu, Breaux, Nelson (NE), Miller, Lincoln, Carper, etc.  I can't imagine why you left them out.  Surely you weren't cherry-picking names

[IceSpear]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

Disgusting, although not as awful as the Democrats who opposed the Iraq War, but will suddenly discover their inner neo-con if Hillary is nominated.

Biden, Reid, Harkin, Kerry, Edwards, Dorgan, Cantwell, and Kohl all voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Are they all neocons as well? It's not as though Hillary is the only one (either in terms of politicians or regular citizens) who flip flopped on this issue, as it used to have overwhelming support.

She's not a neo-con just because she supported the Iraq War (and still refuses to acknowledge it was a mistake).  I'm talking about her entire foreign policy record.  Also, I'm not sure that John Edwards is someone who want to be comparing Hillary to when you defend her

Well, I mostly included him just because many people who endlessly criticize Hillary for the Iraq War vote were Edwards supporters in 2008.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

Disgusting, although not as awful as the Democrats who opposed the Iraq War, but will suddenly discover their inner neo-con if Hillary is nominated.

Biden, Reid, Harkin, Kerry, Edwards, Dorgan, Cantwell, and Kohl all voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Are they all neocons as well? It's not as though Hillary is the only one (either in terms of politicians or regular citizens) who flip flopped on this issue, as it used to have overwhelming support.

She's not a neo-con just because she supported the Iraq War (and still refuses to acknowledge it was a mistake).  I'm talking about her entire foreign policy record.  Also, I'm not sure that John Edwards is someone who want to be comparing Hillary to when you defend her

Well, I mostly included him just because many people who endlessly criticize Hillary for the Iraq War vote were Edwards supporters in 2008.

I'm pretty sure most of them were Obama supporters, actually

[pbrower2a]

Not surprising. The Democrats have been adopting Bush policies over the entire Obama administration, why not adopt the tactics?

The great difference: President Obama reacts cautiously to real dangers to America -- like ISIS. Dubya reacted rashly to fabricated dangers to America.

[Mr. Illini]

While I am not entirely in line with what the DNC is saying here, it needs to be understood that there are different philosophies on the left for foreign policy, and one can remain consistent in opposing Bush's militarism while also thinking Rand Paul's approach is wrong.

[Maxwell]

While I am not entirely in line with what the DNC is saying here, it needs to be understood that there are different philosophies on the left for foreign policy, and one can remain consistent in opposing Bush's militarism while also thinking Rand Paul's approach is wrong.

I don't think anyone's debating that. It's the rhetoric they use, it's the exact same rhetoric as the Bush people used to smear the Democrats.

[Eraserhead]

Wow, the DNC really sucks at trolling.

[Ogre Mage]

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http://factivists.democrats.org/dnc-response-to-rand-pauls-troubling-wsj-op-ed/

This might piss some leftists off.

If you take out all the references to Rand Paul, it's absolutely impossible to not mistake this for what the Neo-cons said during the Bush years.

Disgusting, although not as awful as the Democrats who opposed the Iraq War, but will suddenly discover their inner neo-con if Hillary is nominated.

Biden, Reid, Harkin, Kerry, Edwards, Dorgan, Cantwell, and Kohl all voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Are they all neocons as well? It's not as though Hillary is the only one (either in terms of politicians or regular citizens) who flip flopped on this issue, as it used to have overwhelming support.

She's not a neo-con just because she supported the Iraq War (and still refuses to acknowledge it was a mistake).  I'm talking about her entire foreign policy record.  Also, I'm not sure that John Edwards is someone who want to be comparing Hillary to when you defend her   As for the Senators you mentioned, obviously most of them aren't (although Biden is definitely a liberal interventionist which has some significant overlap with neo-conservatism).  However, Lieberman, Schumer, Feinstein, and Bayh arguably are to varying degrees (especially the first two) and they also voted for the Iraq War.  Additionally, many of the Democrats who supported it were conservaDems like Landrieu, Breaux, Nelson (NE), Miller, Lincoln, Carper, etc.  I can't imagine why you left them out.  Surely you weren't cherry-picking names

That is incorrect.  In her book Clinton says:

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-iraq-war-vote-wrong-article-1.1819012