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« on: August 29, 2014, 12:22:30 PM »

There's technically no term limit on being Vice President of the United States. We've never had one go three terms as FDR switched out his running mates.

Could you ever see a VP going two terms with a President and then giving way to another candidate and running as his VP? There could be a mentorship aspect involved.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 12:56:55 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2014, 02:18:36 PM by Never »

It's definitely an interesting scenario. I think for that to happen, it would require an popular established (likely elderly) vice president who didn't have much ambition, and a younger president from the same party who wanted to have close advisors with a significant degree of relevant experience. Except for the political party aspect, this case would probably be similar to how President Obama retained Secretary of Defense Robert Gates as a means of continuity. On that note, perhaps we would be more likely to see a three term vice president during wartime, with the new president preferring to keep someone who already has a solid grasp of the detailed operations of the war.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 02:11:36 PM »

It's possible.

The last two Vice Presidents have been elder statesman types, so it may be a trend.

And in that case, a younger nominee might select the older Veep for a variety of reasons (adds gravitas to the ticket, ensures the running mate is well-vetted, avoids a choice that does harm). A Kirsten Gillibrand or Cory Booker might keep Biden as a running mate, especially if polls show them 4-5 points ahead.
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 03:06:43 AM »

There were 2 VPs who served under two Presidents.

Clinton served for Jefferson's 2nd term, and 3 years of Madison's first term before dying. Calhoun served under John Q Adams and almost all of Jackson's first term, before resigning for a Senate seat.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 09:03:32 PM »

What if Al Gore was the VP nominee in 2016?
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 09:26:46 PM »

Possible, but very, VERY unlikely.

A new Presidential candidate does not want to be accused of looking to the past instead of looking to the future.

His opponents would have a field day with this.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2014, 04:27:49 PM »

Only if the preceding administration was super popular, and the candidate running for President wanted to capture that.

Even then, it's unlikely.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2014, 05:17:42 PM »

Only if the preceding administration was super popular, and the candidate running for President wanted to capture that.

Even then, it's unlikely.

This is useful to keep in mind when in these situations.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2014, 05:34:35 PM »

Only if the preceding administration was super popular, and the candidate running for President wanted to capture that.

Even then, it's unlikely.

This is useful to keep in mind when in these situations.

If your referring to what I think your referring to, I doubt anyone would want to capture the Obama Administration vibe, and keep Biden. Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 05:47:07 PM »

I was actually thinking about this earlier today as I was running a possible timeline through my head.

Somebody running as an independent or third party might pick an incumbent VP in order to lend his campaign some credibility. 
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2014, 05:48:56 PM »

I was actually thinking about this earlier today as I was running a possible timeline through my head.

Somebody running as an independent or third party might pick an incumbent VP in order to lend his campaign some credibility. 

Yeah, that'd be a really good idea.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2014, 06:56:18 PM »

I was actually thinking about this earlier today as I was running a possible timeline through my head.

Somebody running as an independent or third party might pick an incumbent VP in order to lend his campaign some credibility. 

Yeah, that'd be a really good idea.

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2014, 07:11:58 PM »

This could've happened to George Clinton, however, he died prior to the 1812 Election.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2014, 08:49:05 AM »

It's not going to happen, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2014, 11:43:43 AM »

If this happened, I guarantee you that it'd probably go to the Supreme Court. The 22nd Amendment doesn't explicitly prohibit it, but it would definitely go through multiple interpretations.
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2014, 01:48:21 PM »

If this happened, I guarantee you that it'd probably go to the Supreme Court. The 22nd Amendment doesn't explicitly prohibit it, but it would definitely go through multiple interpretations.

Um, no. No it wouldn't.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2014, 02:08:11 PM »

If this happened, I guarantee you that it'd probably go to the Supreme Court. The 22nd Amendment doesn't explicitly prohibit it, but it would definitely go through multiple interpretations.

Lol.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2014, 01:06:08 PM »

This could've happened to George Clinton, however, he died prior to the 1812 Election.
If he had lived and got elected President in 1816 in James Monroe's place, then we would have had a President Clinton 166 years earlier.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2014, 06:09:11 AM »

What if Al Gore was the VP nominee in 2016?

Or even later? I could certainly see a situation like this, where a long since retired VP comes back as a "elder statesman" VP. I could see a Democrat running on a platform that emphasised the environment picking Gore for that reason, and it might enough to entice Gore when he'd otherwise not be interested in re-entering politics.



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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2014, 10:00:26 PM »

This could've happened to George Clinton, however, he died prior to the 1812 Election.
If he had lived and got elected President in 1816 in James Monroe's place, then we would have had a President Clinton 166 years earlier.

Still no President Blythe, though.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2014, 08:24:34 PM »

It would take a situation like the election of 1900 would have produced had Byran won.  To reunify the party after 1896, when Byran won the nomination in 1900, he had Adlai Stevenson I, Cleveland's 2nd Vice President as his running mate.  If Bryan had won in 1900 and been reelected in 1904 with the same ticket Adlai Stevenson I would have been our first three-term Vice President.

So in other words, we'd need to have a party have an unpopular presidential incumbent and despite an attempt by the next candidate to change direction, the next candidate loses the election, but not by so much as to make it unthinkable ey'd run again and the next time use the old vice president to heal party wounds.  Only unlike Bran in 1900, ey'd actually have to win.
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