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« on: September 01, 2014, 11:46:50 PM »

Where are all the hacked pictures of naked male celebrities? Justin Bieber's phone is pretty safe since 16 year old girls probably aren't great hackers. If naked pics of him got out there you probably wouldn't be able to miss the cries of teenage girls everywhere.

What a lazy article that cheaply tries to capitalize on current events to tie disparate things together to concern troll. Middle school book reports probably require more paragraphs.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 11:57:08 PM »

Where are all the hacked pictures of naked male celebrities? Justin Bieber's phone is pretty safe since 16 year old girls probably aren't great hackers. If naked pics of him got out there you probably wouldn't be able to miss the cries of teenage girls everywhere.

What a lazy article that cheaply tries to capitalize on current events to tie disparate things together to concern troll. Middle school book reports probably require more paragraphs.

Funny that you talk about "lazy" when your reply to the article only responds to the headline, which is never actually talked about in the article itself.

The headline is the only interesting thing to respond to since the vast majority of the article is nothing. "Jennifer Lawrence's phone got hacked, other people are harassed and bullied out of the workforce because of stuff like this, imagine how she must feel." A perfectly fine piece could've been written about the shame of being humiliated from having these things stolen from your personal life without making it about sexism and trying to tie it to completely unrelated events that actually are evidence of sexism.

Most people who are way into tech to the extent that they would go around hacking s**t are men. Most men like women. Bored tech-savvy men decided to hack attractive popular woman's phone. Is that gross? Yes. Illegal? Yes. Evidence of sexism? Not unless you think sexual impulses should be stamped out, which, in your case, you seem to. Sometimes a thing is just a thing.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2014, 12:21:56 AM »

Where are all the hacked pictures of naked male celebrities? Justin Bieber's phone is pretty safe since 16 year old girls probably aren't great hackers. If naked pics of him got out there you probably wouldn't be able to miss the cries of teenage girls everywhere.

What a lazy article that cheaply tries to capitalize on current events to tie disparate things together to concern troll. Middle school book reports probably require more paragraphs.

Funny that you talk about "lazy" when your reply to the article only responds to the headline, which is never actually talked about in the article itself.

The headline is the only interesting thing to respond to since the vast majority of the article is nothing. "Jennifer Lawrence's phone got hacked, other people are harassed and bullied out of the workforce because of stuff like this, imagine how she must feel." A perfectly fine piece could've been written about the shame of being humiliated from having these things stolen from your personal life without making it about sexism and trying to tie it to completely unrelated events that actually are evidence of sexism.

Of course it's sexist, because there is a greater societal fascination with naked womens' bodies than mens', as a part of womens' greater objectification. You're old enough to remember Paris Hilton; since when has there been that much interest in the sex tape of a male celebrity? Speculating about what might happen in an alternate universe (where a 16 y.o. girl hacks Justin Bieber's photos) isn't a rebuttal to an overwhelming and undeniable social phenomenon.

Everyone is objectified and sexualized in different ways. I've stood in lines for enough Twilight movies to know that some young girls will practically grope themselves in public over Team Edward and Team Jacob. I've been in enough check-out lines to see that the "who's f**king who" of tabloid journalism is pretty equal-opportunity. Were you crying foul when Levi Johnston was getting porn offers? Jennifer Lawrence is a famous woman of the moment in unfortunate circumstances. The frenzy would be there either way.

And besides, when have there even been many male celebrity sex tapes? It's hard to have interest in what doesn't seem to exist. I remember Ray J but he's pretty small-time. Colin Farrell had one leak as well, but I genuinely forgot his name until I remember he starred in that Alexander The Great movie or whatever. But I think both of those tapes also had women in them, so do they count?

These were bored hackers. Not everything that happens to a woman is part of society's grand misogynist bent.

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I didn't really opt into this conversation to know when you're masturbating, Beet, but thanks I guess?
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2014, 01:01:00 AM »
« Edited: September 02, 2014, 01:04:05 AM by Marokai Besieged »

The article isn't questioning why there's a frenzy, rather it concludes that, "Like the rest of us privacy-respecting citizens, [Lawrence's] biggest problem is that she is forced to share the planet with the likes of this excuse for a human being, who used all that talent and creativity for bad, in a world that so desperately needs it for good."

My main issue with the article is that it could've made that exact same point without doing a surface-level google search for other goings-on in the news right now including women, throwing it into the same basket and saying "because sexists." I think the obsession with getting the naked pics is creepy, but if there was a Taylor Lautner sex tape I'm not going to lie to you and say I wouldn't be tempted. Being motivated by sex is not inherently misogynist or misandrist.

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But do they get less attention purely because they're women? And are there less purely because they're women, or because male celebrities don't tape themselves having sex as much?

I know you like to point out the Paris Hilton sex tape, but let's not forget that it was from 2003; Paris Hilton was smack-dab in the middle of her 15 Minutes. She was a reality TV star and all over the news. She didn't suddenly come into the fore because of her sex tape. She was already a big news item of the day, and when the sex tape broke it got a lot of attention because it was A) 2003, these things were more novel over a decade ago, and B) She was already famous.

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Eraserhead is a straight guy. Of course he would think they're more important.

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I don't disagree with you personally, but I also completely understand why some people are interested. Jennifer Lawrence is a huge star right now, particularly well known with internet users because of her proliferation in gif-form, and is very attractive. So naturally, there's going to be curiosity. I don't have to like it but I am at least capable of understanding it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2014, 06:28:15 PM »

I don't even know who "Cuoco" is.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 07:19:23 PM »

Though it certainly implies a certain mindset..
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