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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2014, 05:34:16 PM »
« edited: September 03, 2014, 05:36:01 PM by NHLiberal »

I think she would have said the names if they were Republicans. I bet they're Southern Democrats.

Probably not even. It would be a "breach" of sorts and other Senators would have a hard time trusting her in the future. I would think the milieu in the Senate is that these kinds of things are handled "in-house".

Keep in mind that the claims would be denied and can't really be substantiated anyways. It would backfire.

Exactly. I'm not saying they were definitely Republicans, but the fact that she didn't say the names doesn't make it any less likely that they are. Gillibrand isn't going to use this as some cheap political tactic either way; she has a message about women in the workplace that she wants to send and is trying to convey that Congress isn't immune from this.
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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2014, 07:21:15 PM »


Ewwwwwww......
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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2014, 08:59:38 PM »

I think she would have said the names if they were Republicans. I bet they're Southern Democrats.

Probably not even. It would be a "breach" of sorts and other Senators would have a hard time trusting her in the future. I would think the milieu in the Senate is that these kinds of things are handled "in-house".

Keep in mind that the claims would be denied and can't really be substantiated anyways. It would backfire.

Exactly. I'm not saying they were definitely Republicans, but the fact that she didn't say the names doesn't make it any less likely that they are. Gillibrand isn't going to use this as some cheap political tactic either way; she has a message about women in the workplace that she wants to send and is trying to convey that Congress isn't immune from this.

But but think of the Upworthy headlines!!!

You'd never guess which congressmen grabbed Senator Gillibrand's ass Tongue
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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2014, 09:12:04 PM »

I think she would have said the names if they were Republicans. I bet they're Southern Democrats.

Probably not even. It would be a "breach" of sorts and other Senators would have a hard time trusting her in the future. I would think the milieu in the Senate is that these kinds of things are handled "in-house".

Keep in mind that the claims would be denied and can't really be substantiated anyways. It would backfire.

Exactly. I'm not saying they were definitely Republicans, but the fact that she didn't say the names doesn't make it any less likely that they are. Gillibrand isn't going to use this as some cheap political tactic either way; she has a message about women in the workplace that she wants to send and is trying to convey that Congress isn't immune from this.

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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2014, 09:25:23 PM »


If unfortunately not surprising.
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2014, 09:29:52 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2014, 12:44:26 AM by Ogre Mage »

One of Gillibrand's Senate colleagues is not handling her announcement gracefully.

Republican Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson:
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Color me surprised that the right-wing male senator has never seen sexual harassment in the U.S. Senate.  Maybe he can mansplain this to Sen. Gillibrand just like he mansplained the budget to Sen. Baldwin.

In fact, it seems Mr. Johnson has a history of not "seeing" these things:

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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2014, 09:37:30 PM »

"It's not me"

Translation: "It's me"
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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2014, 09:51:05 PM »

I think she would have said the names if they were Republicans. I bet they're Southern Democrats.

Probably not even. It would be a "breach" of sorts and other Senators would have a hard time trusting her in the future. I would think the milieu in the Senate is that these kinds of things are handled "in-house".

Keep in mind that the claims would be denied and can't really be substantiated anyways. It would backfire.

Exactly. I'm not saying they were definitely Republicans, but the fact that she didn't say the names doesn't make it any less likely that they are. Gillibrand isn't going to use this as some cheap political tactic either way; she has a message about women in the workplace that she wants to send and is trying to convey that Congress isn't immune from this.

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Initially, I couldn't put my finger on why I thought Gillibrand made the right call by not naming the senators who harassed her, but I think Schwartz hit the nail on the head with her two reasons. I think it's still interesting to speculate who the culprits could be, but if Gillibrand wants to keep the identities of the senators to herself, that's just fine.
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2014, 11:10:23 PM »

Ron Johnson is such a scumbag.

Anyway, this isn't even a little surprising.
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2014, 12:24:09 AM »


He was objectifying her, so yes.
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2014, 04:56:24 AM »

Sometimes it seems a bit difficult to draw the line between sexual harassment and awkwardness.

For example, do you think "You know, Kirsten, you’re even pretty when you’re fat" is sexual harassment?
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2014, 05:25:46 AM »

It's really not appropriate for the U.S. Senate, but I'd take it as a backhanded compliment.
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2014, 08:32:58 AM »

It's really not appropriate for the U.S. Senate, but I'd take it as a backhanded compliment.

I'd feel special is a certain congressman by the name Aaron felt me up...

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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2014, 10:27:37 AM »

She was Schumer's nebbish, why didn't he defend her from these thugs?
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2014, 11:28:57 AM »

Come on, Kirsten. Names. We want names.

Since she isn't saying, anyone want to speculate on who they are?

Robert Byrd is who comes to mind first.

Oh sure, blame the dead guy.
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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2014, 12:00:08 PM »

Tellin ya, Blunt
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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2014, 12:31:13 PM »

A drunken Ted Kennedy perhaps?
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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2014, 06:11:27 PM »


Nah, they only coexisted when Kennedy was sick. Maybe drunk Dodd
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« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2014, 06:52:33 PM »

Gillibrand was on Jon Stewart that the "fat" quote came from a Southerner. Chambliss?
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« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2014, 09:00:17 AM »

Baby is sexual harassment? Holy crap we live in a soft world

It's not just about what is said, it's how.
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« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2014, 09:05:56 AM »

Baby is sexual harassment? Holy crap we live in a soft world

It's not just about what is said, it's how.
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« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2014, 11:34:57 AM »

I think she would have said the names if they were Republicans. I bet they're Southern Democrats.

Probably not even. It would be a "breach" of sorts and other Senators would have a hard time trusting her in the future. I would think the milieu in the Senate is that these kinds of things are handled "in-house".

Keep in mind that the claims would be denied and can't really be substantiated anyways. It would backfire.

Exactly. I'm not saying they were definitely Republicans, but the fact that she didn't say the names doesn't make it any less likely that they are. Gillibrand isn't going to use this as some cheap political tactic either way; she has a message about women in the workplace that she wants to send and is trying to convey that Congress isn't immune from this.

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Initially, I couldn't put my finger on why I thought Gillibrand made the right call by not naming the senators who harassed her, but I think Schwartz hit the nail on the head with her two reasons. I think it's still interesting to speculate who the culprits could be, but if Gillibrand wants to keep the identities of the senators to herself, that's just fine.

Presumably it's not that "interesting" for those being speculated about, particularly those who are then accused of another person's crime. Which is one reason why she perhaps should name them, if nothing else (particularly when she's already narrowed the list of "suspects" quite a bit).
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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2014, 12:37:35 PM »

So let me ask you guys this........by refusing to name names, does this discourage other women from reporting this kind of stuff?  I mean she's afraid to report some guy because he's powerful, obviously.  So does that tell other women if you're up against a powerful guy you have no chance of getting justice?
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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2014, 12:57:34 PM »

My guess is that's a bipartisan problem. Gillibrand would probably have no issue dropping sexual harassment allegations on Republicans right now and would be encouraged to do so by he fellow Senate Dems.
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« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2014, 01:10:06 PM »

If she's smart, the reason she's not naming names is because she needs something from the perpetrator(s).
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