KS-Sen: Taylor drops out

[Keystone Phil]

Phil, the problem is that Orman will caucuse with the majority party. That will be difficult to sell that for the reps as "WE MUST VOTE FOR ROBERTS IN ORDER TO GAIN THE SENATE", don't you think???

That's exactly what this race will come down to: this guy possibly determining who controls the Senate. And everyone is going to know that Orman won't commit to either side yet so, yes, plenty of Republicans that don't care for Roberts will hold their nose and vote for him, not wanting to take a risk. It's a rather easy sell.

Just like Brownback will regain the lead and win. Ok, we're still waiting on that. Could be a while...

Less than two months isn't that long of a wait.

[KCDem]

Phil, the problem is that Orman will caucuse with the majority party. That will be difficult to sell that for the reps as "WE MUST VOTE FOR ROBERTS IN ORDER TO GAIN THE SENATE", don't you think???

That's exactly what this race will come down to: this guy possibly determining who controls the Senate. And everyone is going to know that Orman won't commit to either side yet so, yes, plenty of Republicans that don't care for Roberts will hold their nose and vote for him, not wanting to take a risk. It's a rather easy sell.

Just like Brownback will regain the lead and win. Ok, we're still waiting on that. Could be a while...

Less than two months isn't that long of a wait.

He's going to win those undecideds by more than 3-1. He better get a move on!

[ProudModerate2]

Does anyone know when we will hear the final Kansas Supreme Court ruling on Taylor on/off the ballot ??

If you do hear the ruling from the court, please post in this thread ASAP.
Thanks.

[Miles]

Its sounds more likely than not that Taylor's name gets dropped.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Does anyone know when we will hear the final Kansas Supreme Court ruling on Taylor on/off the ballot ??

If you do hear the ruling from the court, please post in this thread ASAP.
Thanks.

Either Tomorrow or Thursday. Apparently, if the court rules in favor of DavisTaylor, Kobach is going to try to force the courts to force the democratic party to name a replacement. Just more proof that Kobach is doing everything with Robert's best interests in mind. If the democrats name Orman as their replacement, they'd make him a weaker candidate in the process, and if they name some random unknown democrat he'd probably reach double digits even if he went around telling people not to vote for him because he hasn't technically 'dropped out', taking votes away from Orman.


Hopefully Kobach will find himself defeated in November.

Edited due to wrong candidate name. I suppose this is what I get for typing this at 11:38 at night.

[IceSpear]

How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it. Or perhaps the Democrats could select Kobach, Roberts, Brownback, or Yoder?

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How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it. Or perhaps the Democrats could select Kobach, Roberts, Brownback, or Yoder?

Could they choose someone who legally changes their name to "Dont Vote For Me"? LOL.

[ProudModerate2]

Its sounds more likely than not that Taylor's name gets dropped.

Very interesting article. The justices demanded answers to very good questions. Seems they really did beat-up on the attorney backing the SOS.
I agree that more than likely, Taylor's name will be removed.

[IceSpear]

How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it. Or perhaps the Democrats could select Kobach, Roberts, Brownback, or Yoder?

Could they choose someone who legally changes their name to "Dont Vote For Me"? LOL.

LOL, yeah, exactly. If the partisan hack Kobach wants to play games with the law, Democrats can play that game as well.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it. Or perhaps the Democrats could select Kobach, Roberts, Brownback, or Yoder?

Could they choose someone who legally changes their name to "Dont Vote For Me"? LOL.

LOL, yeah, exactly. If the partisan hack Kobach wants to play games with the law, Democrats can play that game as well.

That would be funny. Now the question would be who would be willing to do that - change your name from now until November to 'Don't Vote For Me".

How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it. Or perhaps the Democrats could select Kobach, Roberts, Brownback, or Yoder?

Basically, his plan is to sue the democratic party and hope the courts rule the right way....

[ProudModerate2]

How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it.

I was thinking the exact same thing ....
The Democrats can just stall and not submit a name in enough time before the ballots are printed (I think the deadline for printing of ballots is this Saturday Sept 20).
If the High Court says that Taylor's name is off, then it must come off ... period. And if the Democrats don't submit a name, then the ballots must be printed without a Democrat.

And what can the SOS/Elections office do if a substitute name is not given ... if the Dem's just refuse to give a name .... what are they going to do ?? Throw someone is jail ??
I don't think they can force this. Especially because there is "insufficient time" for the Dem party to do this. Maybe if the Kansas SOS office didn't "play games" from the beginning, then maybe a Democratic substitute would have been made .... but now, the Republicans lose twice as bad : (1) No Taylor name, and (2) no replacement name on the ballot.

[Panda Express]

Didn't we agree the best solution was to nominate a random democrat who was named "Pat Roberts"?

[DrScholl]

Legally, I don't believe there is a way to force a replacement, since it's always up to the party whether or not they want to field a replacement (that is if the law allows for one).

[ProudModerate2]

.... if they name some random unknown democrat he'd probably reach double digits even if he went around telling people not to vote for him because he hasn't technically 'dropped out', taking votes away from Orman.

I seriously, seriously doubt a "random unknown democrat" would pull double digits.
Almost impossible.

But if a replacement name (somehow) is forced on the ballot, the Dem's could just find someone in Kansas with a last name of .... ummmm .... Bin Laden, maybe.
And then after any forced replacement name, the new Dem candidate can subsequently and quickly just submit a "proper" letter of resignation for his candidacy, thus making sure that everyone knows this candidate is not serious, and thus can be mostly ignored on the ballot.

[SteveRogers]

How exactly could Kobach "force" Democrats to select a replacement? If they decide not to, there's nothing he can do about it. Or perhaps the Democrats could select Kobach, Roberts, Brownback, or Yoder?

I don't think he could. Even if the law mandates that Democrats must select a replacement, the law doesn't give the SOS any recourse if the KS Democratic Party refuses to do so, and there's almost certainly no penalty under the law for refusing to do so. It sounds like he's talking about trying to go back to court and get a judge to order the party to select a replacement, but the SOS doesn't have standing to bring that suit. Maybe he could find a member of the state Democratic party that would have standing to bring a suit, but it doesn't seem that there's enough time left for such antics.

[7,052,770]

Didn't we agree the best solution was to nominate a random democrat who was named "Pat Roberts"?

I think they should just nominate Milton Wolf and peel even more votes away from Roberts.

[pendragon]

Didn't we agree the best solution was to nominate a random democrat who was named "Pat Roberts"?

I think they should just nominate Milton Wolf and peel even more votes away from Roberts.

I'd say be careful what you wish for with that strategy.

[IceSpear]

Didn't we agree the best solution was to nominate a random democrat who was named "Pat Roberts"?

I think they should just nominate Milton Wolf and peel even more votes away from Roberts.

I'd say be careful what you wish for with that strategy.

A Roberts-Wolf-Orman race would be an easy victory for Orman.

[Tender Branson]

So, are the Supreme Court dudes going to rule on this today ?

Otherwise, the ballots will start to be printed with his name on them ...

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, are the Supreme Court dudes going to rule on this today ?

Otherwise, the ballots will start to be printed with his name on them ...

So?

[Andrew1]

Yes the ruling is going to have to come today. It seemed that there was some sympathy for Taylor's position amongst the Justices.

Will there also be a view on whether Kobach can force the Democrats to nominate another candidate? The state party has said even if they were ordered to do so, there just isn't time.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

No ruling just yet....

Will there also be a view on whether Kobach can force the Democrats to nominate another candidate? The state party has said even if they were ordered to do so, there just isn't time.

That wasn't argued over at all on Tuesday, so the court probably won't issue anything on it, but don't rule it out.

Also, does anyone know if Kobach could declare an 'emergency delay' on the printing deadline in order to allow time to attempt to get a second court ruling demanding the democrats to choose a replacement?

[Antonio the Sixth]

What the heck are these useless sloths in robes doing?

[Tender Branson]

What the heck are these useless sloths in robes doing?

2-day coffee break ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

I can't wash away the suspicion that they're doing it on purpose, because they know Taylor is in the right and don't want to set a bad precedent, but they are also GOP hacks who want Roberts to win. Going "sorry dude, you were totally right but it's too late!" might be their best strategy.