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« on: September 03, 2014, 11:06:25 PM »

So a bunch of Dems flow to Orman and a bunch flee if he's really running as a centrist/won't say who he'll caucus with.

Flee to where?

Phil acts like Kansas Democrats have never been forced to vote for a centrist before...
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 05:28:57 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2014, 05:34:54 PM by ℒief »

The Democrat's name being on the ballot won't affect anything. He'll win maybe 2-3%. Voters aren't complete idiots and at the very least are aware which candidates are actually running for election. Anyone who votes for Taylor in November is either 1) so out of the loop that they wouldn't know they were supposed to vote for Orman anyway or 2) so blindly partisan that they wouldn't have voted for an independent anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 11:00:08 PM »

But even if Taylor manages to get his vote share down to say, 5-6% or so, that's votes that Orman can't get. Roberts can breathe a little easier with Taylor's name on the ballot than he can without it being there.

If Taylor's name stays on the ballot, it will capture some votes. But I don't think it will be 5-6%.
My guess is approx half of that (2-3%).

I'm looking forward to seeing the very first poll with just Orman and Roberts.

Again, most of that 2-3% would have never voted for Orman in the first place. This is not a big loss at all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 11:52:56 PM »

The Democrat's name being on the ballot won't affect anything. He'll win maybe 2-3%. Voters aren't complete idiots and at the very least are aware which candidates are actually running for election. Anyone who votes for Taylor in November is either 1) so out of the loop that they wouldn't know they were supposed to vote for Orman anyway or 2) so blindly partisan that they wouldn't have voted for an independent anyway.

Dan Maes got 11% in 2010. Granted, he didn't drop out, but nobody took him seriously either. Dede Scozzafava got 6% after dropping out and endorsing the Democrat.

Scozzafava dropped out 48 hours before the polls closed. Give me a break.

Exactly. There was also a good reason for people to vote for her as a protest vote (moderate republicans against the tea party).
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 06:51:05 PM »

Senator Pat Roberts has a cool new ad (??) on his Youtube channel. It's very bizarre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf7B7NHRTcM&feature=youtube_gdata
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 10:49:32 AM »

The second half of the ad is good. The first half is a pretty boiler plate Republican negative ad, just as likely to reinforce Orman's bipartisan/independent message as anything else. I'm also not so sure attacking Orman for being a liberal Obamabot and then attacking him for agreeing too much with the state's conservative Republican senator makes much sense at all.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 10:56:11 AM »

Election Law Blog says that based on oral arguments it's likely that Taylor's name will be taken off the ballot: http://electionlawblog.org/?p=65498

Wonderful news!
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2014, 04:18:44 PM »

hearing word that the decision should be released within the next 45 minutes
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2014, 05:01:03 PM »

Orman would just be another vote for Harry Reid's liberal Senate majority. Republicans and Independents will eventually wake up and see what is at stake here. Pat Roberts will return to the Senate next January.

But if Republicans win 6 seats then he'll be another vote for McConnell's fascist Senate majority.

And if Republicans win 5 seats, he'll be another vote Angus King's train wreck moderate hero circus.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 02:18:58 PM »

lol, Kobach continues to be an incompetent law-breaker:

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/kobach-move-act-waiver-kansas-senate-race
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2014, 03:17:42 PM »

Soon-to-be-ex-SOS and serial lawbreaker Kobach has thrown in the towel! Looks like Republicans won't be able to trample over the rights of our brave men and women overseas after all!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kansas-senate-race-ballots
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014, 07:21:29 PM »

Dr. Milton Wolf (the guy who ran against and almost defeated Pat Roberts in the primary) SLAMS the Kansas GOP's embarrassing and pathetic campaign of non-stop negativity: https://twitter.com/miltonwolfmd

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2014, 09:33:30 PM »

Let's hope so. An Orman-Taylor-Wolf election eve unity rally would be fantastic!
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2014, 09:47:30 PM »

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Sounds like a perfect answer to me.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 05:48:22 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/09/30/a-34-year-incumbent-just-attacked-someone-who-has-never-held-office-as-a-politician/

Roberts' ads are getting more ridiculous and over the top as he becomes more and more desperate to turn things around. His newest attacks? Orman and Obama's names both start with "O"!!! Also AMNESTY! And Orman is apparently a politician, unlike Senator Roberts.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2014, 07:08:11 PM »

What do you expect when your campaign is run by the visionary team of political veterans responsible for such campaigns as Linda McMahon 2012, Karen Handel 2014, Ken Cuccinelli 2013, and Brian Dubie 2010?
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2014, 10:33:25 PM »

Brian Dubie was leading by 20 points in the summer and was very popular retiring Republican governor Jim Douglas' lieutenant governor. He should have won.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2014, 12:15:01 PM »

Orman continues to use Roberts' attack ads to bolster his own nonpartisan/independent message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2GqyWbmQr-A

Good ad.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2014, 07:19:31 PM »

Roberts' ads continue to be caricatures of themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlLw5-obItE

The scary music and dramatic filters are completely unnecessary and just make the whole thing look like a joke.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2014, 07:58:45 PM »

(Watching the debate) Pat Roberts comes off as a huge asshole.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2014, 02:29:05 PM »

Pat Roberts (R-DC/Ukraine)
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2014, 11:51:21 AM »



Disgusting new attacks from an increasingly desperate old man.
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2014, 02:46:31 PM »

Yeah Roberts will probably win narrowly. I just have a hard time believing the undecideds won't break in his favor.
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