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« on: September 04, 2014, 01:50:18 PM »
« edited: September 11, 2014, 05:00:03 PM by Speaker SWE »

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Sponsor: Representative dallasfan65

Debate on this bill will last for 72 hours, or until 2:49 on Sunday, September 7, unless modified or extended. The sponsor has 36 hours to advocate for this proposed legislation. If he does not, this bill will be tabled as there is other pending legislation in the queue.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 12:02:56 AM »

OK.

In contemporary politics, the Pledge of Allegiance is a controversial issue. Some contend that students are under no obligation to utter the phrase "under god," due to the provision in the Constitution establishing the freedom of religion. The compromise has long been that students are at liberty to remain silent during the utterance of "under god." However, I believe this underscores a larger point: the Pledge of Allegiance itself is an undue compulsion of speech and thought.

This opinion isn't exclusive to Atlas. As early back as 1938, Judge Marris wrote:

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I don't know that it would be enough to merely make it voluntary to participate in the Pledge. Considering how ingrained it is in our culture, not standing up for the Pledge of Allegiance is tantamount to a thoughtcrime, and can lead to ostracism.

As for the school prayer thing, I may be wrong but I seem to recall real life provisions of school prayer being conditional of silence. Nothing in this bill would stop people from praying to themselves, and people may still do so during designated times of the day.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 05:21:10 PM »

Dallasfan, I agree with you regarding the Pledge of Allegiance, but what do you think of the idea of replacing the "voluntary prayer" period with a simple moment of silence for a short period of time? Seems like it would be inoffensive to both religious and nonreligious people.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 05:34:50 PM »

I agree with Dallasfan. That "Tacky" thing is incredibly dumb though.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 07:57:38 PM »

Dallasfan, I agree with you regarding the Pledge of Allegiance, but what do you think of the idea of replacing the "voluntary prayer" period with a simple moment of silence for a short period of time? Seems like it would be inoffensive to both religious and nonreligious people.

Seems fair enough - did you have a specific amendment you'd like to propose?

I agree with Dallasfan. That "Tacky" thing is incredibly dumb though.

I chose "Tacky" due to the fact that the Supreme Court struck down our noble attempt to ban Happy several months ago. If we cannot free ourselves from this phascism, I hold that our schools reserve the right to play Weird Al's parody, which has much more lyrical depth and creativity than the original.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 08:16:39 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2014, 12:05:17 AM »

Of course. As a member of the Basedworld minority, I support the secularization of Atlasia.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2014, 12:33:22 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 03:34:48 PM »

Another thing to consider is that "Under God" is not the only potentially offensive provision in the Pledge. Personally, I refrain from saying the word "indivisible" as I believe in the right of secession.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 03:39:34 PM »

Another thing to consider is that "Under God" is not the only potentially offensive provision in the Pledge. Personally, I refrain from saying the word "indivisible" as I believe in the right of secession.


Who the heck cares about the words in it, students should not be required to say anything. Forced patriotism isn't patriotism, its just a show.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 06:57:03 PM »

The debating period is now over. Representatives will now vote on this bill as written:

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Voting will last for 48 hours or until all Representatives have voted.
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 07:01:01 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 07:07:38 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 09:38:08 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2014, 12:06:46 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 12:07:18 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2014, 08:23:00 PM »

The voting period is now over. By a vote of 5-0-0, this bill goes to the governor for his signature or veto.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2014, 04:59:46 PM »

The governor has signed this bill into law.
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