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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2014, 01:53:43 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2014, 03:04:33 PM »

I want to reitterate before "someone" calls me a hack. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if the GOP gains the Senate, but at the moment the most likely dice roll seems to be 50-50.
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2014, 03:44:58 PM »

I'll guess R+5, with either Kay Hagan or Mark Begich being the one seat that stops a regressive takeover...maybe Georgia goes to the Dems

Although given that the country didn't give Obama 55% of the vote, in Georgia they voted for a chickenhawk over a near-limbless POV in 2002,...I wouldn't be surprised if the regressive obstructionists took over.
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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2014, 03:53:49 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.
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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2014, 04:03:43 PM »

We were stuck in that "stage" in 2012 as well when Romney "won" the first debate, and with the Senate.

...Look how that turned out.
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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2014, 04:43:07 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.

I don't think that any Republican-supporters on this website, should be accusing anyone of "denial."
The last presidential race showed gross denial by many on this site ... and I mean majorly-gross.

We are two months away until the general election. Most Democrat-supporters on this site, are being realistic in their predictions on each state-by-state Senate race. Few are "overly optimistic." But their is still time for movement of votes from one candidate to another (via poll info), and for members of this site to be more practical in their forecasting.

But if you recall, during the 2012 Presidential Election, many more Republican-supporters on this site were in "denial." Even one day before the election, Fox News had many on this site hypnotized that republicans were going to paint the majority of the map in their color. I was horrified to read many Atlas comments, thinking to myself "are these people sane ... from Earth?!!"
When all evidence was pointing to a near-certain predictable winner, Tea-baggers and ultra-conservative republicans insanely went down the path of too "cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs."
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« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2014, 04:44:34 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.

Saying Republicans will gain 5 seats (which is what I'm saying) is hardly denial.
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« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2014, 04:58:35 PM »

It might be faster for you just to tally the color of the avatars in the forum Tongue

That said, I honestly have no idea. Anything from R+3 to R+8 seem realistic to me at this point.
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« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2014, 07:06:12 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.

I don't think that any Republican-supporters on this website, should be accusing anyone of "denial."
The last presidential race showed gross denial by many on this site ... and I mean majorly-gross.

We are two months away until the general election. Most Democrat-supporters on this site, are being realistic in their predictions on each state-by-state Senate race. Few are "overly optimistic." But their is still time for movement of votes from one candidate to another (via poll info), and for members of this site to be more practical in their forecasting.

But if you recall, during the 2012 Presidential Election, many more Republican-supporters on this site were in "denial." Even one day before the election, Fox News had many on this site hypnotized that republicans were going to paint the majority of the map in their color. I was horrified to read many Atlas comments, thinking to myself "are these people sane ... from Earth?!!"
When all evidence was pointing to a near-certain predictable winner, Tea-baggers and ultra-conservative republicans insanely went down the path of too "cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs."

Except we learned from our mistakes in that regard. You're making the same claims and denials we did then.
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« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2014, 07:54:36 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2014, 07:58:44 PM by ProudModerate2 »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.

I don't think that any Republican-supporters on this website, should be accusing anyone of "denial."
The last presidential race showed gross denial by many on this site ... and I mean majorly-gross.

We are two months away until the general election. Most Democrat-supporters on this site, are being realistic in their predictions on each state-by-state Senate race. Few are "overly optimistic." But their is still time for movement of votes from one candidate to another (via poll info), and for members of this site to be more practical in their forecasting.

But if you recall, during the 2012 Presidential Election, many more Republican-supporters on this site were in "denial." Even one day before the election, Fox News had many on this site hypnotized that republicans were going to paint the majority of the map in their color. I was horrified to read many Atlas comments, thinking to myself "are these people sane ... from Earth?!!"
When all evidence was pointing to a near-certain predictable winner, Tea-baggers and ultra-conservative republicans insanely went down the path of too "cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs."

Except we learned from our mistakes in that regard. You're making the same claims and denials we did then.

What do you mean by saying "You are making the same claims and denials ..."
I have made no such denials. I have said in another thread, that there is approximately a 55% probability that Republicans will hold a majority in the Senate.

Just because I am a reasonable individual who points-out a previous insane prediction made by a group of cuckoos, doesn't mean I am automatically "one who believes on a +1 Democratic net gain in the Senate" (This would be equivalent to the crazies who were calling a landslide Romney win).

And besides, if you re-read my post, my emphasis is on the wackies who refused to believe (denial) on the day before the election. We are still about two months away, so (at this time)we need to allow for some room on "exaggerated opinions" by some Atlas members.
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« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2014, 08:02:11 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.

Saying Republicans will gain 5 seats (which is what I'm saying) is hardly denial.

Here is Vega, making a similar argument.
Notice that Vega is not in denial ... a Republican +5 net gain sounds reasonable.
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« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2014, 08:38:47 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.
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« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2014, 08:47:15 PM »

I have been gung-ho in predicting the Republicans will overtake the Senate, but now with Kansas as a pure toss-up based on the latest polls, I'm not so sure.  I'm almost certain that Orman will caucus with the Democrats should he beat Pat Roberts, so even though he's an Indy, for all intents and purposes, I will call him a Democrat.  I was saying a 51-49 Republican advantage, so now I'm putting the control of the Senate in a pure toss-up.  I'm agreeing more and more with a 50-50 Senate with VP Biden breaking the tie.  I'm still going to vote Republican in this poll, but with some hesitancy.
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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2014, 02:26:01 PM »

I'm really starting to think the Democrats are going through the Five Stages of Death and Grief with this whole thing.

They've been stuck at the Denial stage for pretty much the entire election season.

I don't think that any Republican-supporters on this website, should be accusing anyone of "denial."
The last presidential race showed gross denial by many on this site ... and I mean majorly-gross.

We are two months away until the general election. Most Democrat-supporters on this site, are being realistic in their predictions on each state-by-state Senate race. Few are "overly optimistic." But their is still time for movement of votes from one candidate to another (via poll info), and for members of this site to be more practical in their forecasting.

But if you recall, during the 2012 Presidential Election, many more Republican-supporters on this site were in "denial." Even one day before the election, Fox News had many on this site hypnotized that republicans were going to paint the majority of the map in their color. I was horrified to read many Atlas comments, thinking to myself "are these people sane ... from Earth?!!"
When all evidence was pointing to a near-certain predictable winner, Tea-baggers and ultra-conservative republicans insanely went down the path of too "cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs."

Except we learned from our mistakes in that regard. You're making the same claims and denials we did then.

Lmao, you guys did the same nonsense in 2008 and they will do it in 2016 as well.
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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2014, 03:55:37 PM »

Voted the Republicans with a 51-seat majority. Though a 50-50 split is still a possibility.
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« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2014, 06:35:07 AM »

MT, SD, WV, AR, and LA will turn red. Sanders then surprises everyone and caucuses with the Republicans.
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« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2014, 06:47:04 AM »

MT, SD, WV, AR, and LA will turn red. Sanders then surprises everyone and caucuses with the Republicans.

Do you mean King? Sanders will not do that.
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« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2014, 03:44:59 PM »

MT, SD, WV, AR, and LA will turn red. Sanders then surprises everyone and caucuses with the Republicans.

Do you mean King? Sanders will not do that.

ElectionsGuy,
I think he is joking.
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« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2014, 04:16:18 PM »

AK and NC and La royal blue
Mnt, SD and Wva ruby red
KS indy favored

51-49 senate while Orman and King stay with respective parties
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« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2014, 04:25:02 PM »

I've always said that the Democrats will keep the Senate and I'm not changing that prediction now.

-_-

You act like a Republican Senate is guaranteed at this point when it's far more likely for Democrats to keep it. Even in toss-up states, Democrats have been leading Republican challengers for the most part.
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« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2014, 04:56:48 PM »

FiveThirtyEight has reduced the possibility for a Republican takeover vastly today. Down from around 63% yesterday to only 58% today. Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2014, 05:32:54 PM »

FiveThirtyEight has reduced the possibility for a Republican takeover vastly today. Down from around 63% yesterday to only 58% today. Smiley

The Democratic wave is building!
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« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2014, 07:51:04 PM »

www.electoral-vote.com shows Republicans with a 51-48-1 advantage with all of the southern states (Arkansas, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina) plus Alaska going red and all the western/northern states (Colorado, Iowa, Michigan) going blue.  I'm guessing Orman will side with the Democrats, so might as well say 51-49.
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« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2014, 09:08:45 PM »

www.electoral-vote.com shows Republicans with a 51-48-1 advantage with all of the southern states (Arkansas, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina) plus Alaska going red and all the western/northern states (Colorado, Iowa, Michigan) going blue.  I'm guessing Orman will side with the Democrats, so might as well say 51-49.

Disagree with NC, should be barely Dem, and Alaska should be tied.
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« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2014, 09:09:52 PM »
« Edited: September 11, 2014, 09:14:30 PM by mokbu »

As to Democratic denials vs GOP denial in 2012. I don't remember Romney ever winning the Electoral College that entire election. According to our aggregates on this site, Begich is winning, Hagan, and Braley are winning. Begich has slipped in recent polls and is probably losing, but so is Pat Roberts. They both probably have the same chance of losing. Right now the GOP is looking at about 5 pickups. I wouldn't be shocked if they win 8, but right now polls say 50 50 Senate. KS is huge. Wouldn't be surprised though, if Orman's support wanes as voters realize it may keep the Dems in control. It's really close.
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