Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating)

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This is an awful bill, for reasons I posted here when deus originally posted it:

So, as promised, I'm going to say a few words on my opponents platform. If you want to read all of Deus's platform you can do so here, but I simply don't have the time to comment on all of it. The one thing that did leap to my attention and is IMO, utterly crazy, and I don't think that's to strong a word, was the proposed Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act that Deus would introduce:

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Now my immediate thought on reading this, was, this seems like a perfect example of Chesterton's fence. There is almost always a good reason for regulations, as we've found after almost mining accident, every instance of commercial food poisoning, every instance of misleading advertising. To want to repeal all regulations but the very few mentioned in a thread in the senate is insanity.

Even if you cleave to a worldview that places freedom as it's highest goal, you should still support most regulations because the freedom not to be sold a product that doesn't do what it says it would, the freedom not to worry about the food you bought being poisoned, the freedom not to die in the workplace are far more important than a companies (and in most cases, it will be companies) freedom to act in a crappy manner.

I, like any sensible individual, would support repealing regulations that are unnecessary, but this is patently the wrong way to do that.

As well, this bill makes section 3 unnecessary.

The problem with this bill is that, as deus and other libertarians make clear, there are so many regulations that even if every atlasian citizen spent all day looking for ones to keep, we'd still miss out a huge chunk.

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Proposing an amendment:

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I can make a good guess

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Why not make it so there is a general way of quickly repealing all useless laws and not just regulations?

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Why not make it so there is a general way of quickly repealing all useless laws and not just regulations?

What would you have in mind? Changing statute requires an act of the legislative branch.

I was thinking that people could propose any legislation passed by the senate for repeal in the same way as outlined for regulations. Although I'm to sure whether that would be legal. It would also have to be clear to senators that this was for repealing useless laws, not laws which are still in effect but have consequences people disagree with, though I think that's doable.

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Never mind then.

I think we're ready for a final vote.

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Aye

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I don't think that the redraft is actually necessary. A majority is normally taken to be 50+1 which would be 6-5 anyway.

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Abstain

The redraft doesn't bother me one way or the other.

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Abstain