Who is the 4th greatest President?

[Rockefeller GOP]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

[IceSpear]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&fips=28&year=1964

[Goldwater]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&fips=28&year=1964

...And how exactly is this relevant to his current political affiliation or his opinion of LBJ?

[IceSpear]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&fips=28&year=1964

...And how exactly is this relevant to his current political affiliation or his opinion of LBJ?

It's ironic because LBJ is the one responsible for turning Mississippi from solid Democratic to solid Republican.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&fips=28&year=1964

...And how exactly is this relevant to his current political affiliation or his opinion of LBJ?

It's ironic because LBJ is the one responsible for turning Mississippi from solid Democratic to solid Republican.

Nice fairy tale version of history, but that's not true.  Mississippi voted for a non-Republican (and Democrat, actually) George Wallace in '68, heavily for Nixon in '72 (but how is that relevant, so did every other state), Carter (a Democrat) in '76 and BARELY for Reagan in his 1980 landslide (when he won non-Southern states by bigger margins).  I know Democrats like to purge themselves of their racist past by telling the story that by the stroke of a pen, heroic LBJ sent all the racists uniformally running to the GOP, but history tells a more complicated story.

[IceSpear]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&fips=28&year=1964

...And how exactly is this relevant to his current political affiliation or his opinion of LBJ?

It's ironic because LBJ is the one responsible for turning Mississippi from solid Democratic to solid Republican.

Nice fairy tale version of history, but that's not true.  Mississippi voted for a non-Republican (and Democrat, actually) George Wallace in '68, heavily for Nixon in '72 (but how is that relevant, so did every other state), Carter (a Democrat) in '76 and BARELY for Reagan in his 1980 landslide (when he won non-Southern states by bigger margins).  I know Democrats like to purge themselves of their racist past by telling the story that by the stroke of a pen, heroic LBJ sent all the racists uniformally running to the GOP, but history tells a more complicated story.

I didn't say it happened overnight. But that stroke of the pen was the catalyst that started the trend.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Where's Lyndon Johnson?

He's definitely better than Kennedy

An R-MS saying this...

Southern Republicans can't appreciate a fellow Southerner who signed into law a CRA backed heavily and influenced heavily by Republicans?  Just playing Devil's Advocate here...

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&fips=28&year=1964

...And how exactly is this relevant to his current political affiliation or his opinion of LBJ?

It's ironic because LBJ is the one responsible for turning Mississippi from solid Democratic to solid Republican.

Nice fairy tale version of history, but that's not true.  Mississippi voted for a non-Republican (and Democrat, actually) George Wallace in '68, heavily for Nixon in '72 (but how is that relevant, so did every other state), Carter (a Democrat) in '76 and BARELY for Reagan in his 1980 landslide (when he won non-Southern states by bigger margins).  I know Democrats like to purge themselves of their racist past by telling the story that by the stroke of a pen, heroic LBJ sent all the racists uniformally running to the GOP, but history tells a more complicated story.

I didn't say it happened overnight. But that stroke of the pen was the catalyst that started the trend.

Was it?  Eisenhower certainly did very well in the South.  Heck, HOOVER won several Southern states in the '20s.

[Gass3268]

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