Air Force to atheist Sgt.: "Recite 'So help me god' or get out" (user search)
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« on: September 12, 2014, 09:24:13 PM »

If you're an atheist (as am I), saying "so help me God" isn't really any different than saying "hocus-pocus, if I am false let bad juju fall on my head."

I mean, it's just words. If you're treating religious references like they have mystical power... haven't you gone full circle back to being religious again?

There's nothing mystical about respect.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2014, 10:41:16 PM »

An oath began as a mystical thing, and I think retains a bit of that quality to it even today.  It is possible for an atheist to have a commitment that is of an almost religious quality.

What does that even mean in this context? Why should that mean this man should be forced to invoke a god he doesn't believe in?

I would think it means he shouldn't have to, as it would contradict his religious commitment.  I wonder if there could be some other source of help he can reference that is more in line with his beliefs.

I don't think so.  This sounds sort of like that 'atheists are religious / believe in God, even if they don't realise it' line of reasoning that I've come across.  I can't really speak for anyone else, but personally I wouldn't need to be referencing anything like that if taking an oath of that nature.  For me, it would be best to omit the line.
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