Air Force to atheist Sgt.: "Recite 'So help me god' or get out" (user search)
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« on: September 10, 2014, 06:37:22 PM »

Well, he wants to be authentic in his oath, and true to his beliefs, and not call upon the help of someone he doesn't believe exists, so I can't fault hm that.

Congress apparently used to include an exemption for people not to have to take this part of the oath, but then took it out when they renewed the law that it is a part of. Maybe some fundie cut it when no one was looking.  The Air Force should follow the Constitution over the plain meaning of the statute, but they are not completely to blame here.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 10:09:08 PM »

An oath began as a mystical thing, and I think retains a bit of that quality to it even today.  It is possible for an atheist to have a commitment that is of an almost religious quality.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2014, 12:00:27 AM »

An oath began as a mystical thing, and I think retains a bit of that quality to it even today.  It is possible for an atheist to have a commitment that is of an almost religious quality.

What does that even mean in this context? Why should that mean this man should be forced to invoke a god he doesn't believe in?

I would think it means he shouldn't have to, as it would contradict his religious commitment.  I wonder if there could be some other source of help he can reference that is more in line with his beliefs.
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