Hillary down to a 43% favorable rating

[IceSpear]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

[Pandaguineapig]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

[Mr. Morden]

Anyway, here are the favorable/unfavorable #s on all the 2016ers tested in this poll:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/isis-speech-offers-obama-one-chance-turn-bad-polls-around-n199961

Clinton 43/41% for +2%
Rubio 21/21% for +0
Paul 23/27% for -4%
Romney 32/39% for -7%
J. Bush 22/30% for -8%

[IceSpear]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

[Pandaguineapig]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

Look all im saying is that pounding your chest over way too early polls without keeping the trends in mind is stupid, im not going to keep up with this back and forth I just wonder why you feel the need to defend a super-corrupt politician who clearly is only interested in her self-advancement at every turn?

[KCDem]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

Look all im saying is that pounding your chest over way too early polls without keeping the trends in mind is stupid, im not going to keep up with this back and forth I just wonder why you feel the need to defend a super-corrupt politician who clearly is only interested in her self-advancement at every turn?

Shut up, panda. No one cares.

[Pandaguineapig]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

Look all im saying is that pounding your chest over way too early polls without keeping the trends in mind is stupid, im not going to keep up with this back and forth I just wonder why you feel the need to defend a super-corrupt politician who clearly is only interested in her self-advancement at every turn?

Shut up, panda. No one cares.

I love you too

[IceSpear]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

Look all im saying is that pounding your chest over way too early polls without keeping the trends in mind is stupid, im not going to keep up with this back and forth I just wonder why you feel the need to defend a super-corrupt politician who clearly is only interested in her self-advancement at every turn?

Where's your proof that she's "super corrupt"? (This should be good). As for only interested in her own self advancement, you're naive if you think that doesn't apply to 99% of politicians.

[Free Bird]

[Pandaguineapig]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

Look all im saying is that pounding your chest over way too early polls without keeping the trends in mind is stupid, im not going to keep up with this back and forth I just wonder why you feel the need to defend a super-corrupt politician who clearly is only interested in her self-advancement at every turn?

Where's your proof that she's "super corrupt"? (This should be good). As for only interested in her own self advancement, you're naive if you think that doesn't apply to 99% of politicians.

Yes it applies to virtually all politicians but i'm not going to defend Jeb Bush or Chris Christie any time soon

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Criticizing Obama for not being enough of a warmonger might have something to do with it.

[IceSpear]

Her large drop in favorability is proof that no matter how badly liberals on this forum may wish it, Hillary is not Bill, she's not very likable and is a poor campaigner. If she runs she will have a much harder time winning the election than the icespears on this would like to believe

Except she's still crushing all your joke candidates easily, so what does that say about them?

Look at the trends and name recognition of the candidates then get over your delusions

Yes, the trends. I'm sure you'll take solace in the fact that she's gone from crushing all Republicans by 15-20 points to "only" crushing them by 7-10 points.

Her average lead has gone down by over 10 points, yes she's still leading them but the fact remains she's universally known and her opponents aren't that well known, she's also had her favorability rating drop by almost 30 points over the last 18 months, Hillary is very comparable to Rudy Giuliani in that she's a very poor campaigner and the public likes her less and less as she reemerges in the political scene. If you put down the Kool-Aid you wouldn't like that

Everybody already knew Republicans and right wing independents were going to start disliking Hillary eventually, the only question was when it would happen. So what? If you think that just because you picked off that low hanging fruit that her ratings will continue to trend downward, you're sorely mistaken.

Look all im saying is that pounding your chest over way too early polls without keeping the trends in mind is stupid, im not going to keep up with this back and forth I just wonder why you feel the need to defend a super-corrupt politician who clearly is only interested in her self-advancement at every turn?

Where's your proof that she's "super corrupt"? (This should be good). As for only interested in her own self advancement, you're naive if you think that doesn't apply to 99% of politicians.

Yes it applies to virtually all politicians but i'm not going to defend Jeb Bush or Chris Christie any time soon

Exactly. Naked self-interest and unbridled ambition are present in nearly all politicians (especially ones that run for president), yet it only makes the media, DC pundit bubble, and the political class anxious and uncomfortable when Hillary has it. Hmm, I wonder why that could possibly be...maybe because she has a vagina? Just like how every politician rewards their allies and takes actions against their enemies, yet only Hillary is portrayed as a vengeful, ruthless harpy because she remembers who her friends and enemies are/were. The sexist double standard is sickening.

Anyway, this kind of mindset is far from ideal in our politicians, but it is what it is. On the other hand, it has nothing to do with corruption. So where's the proof that she's super corrupt? There is none. Now let's look at the GOP, where several of their potential nominees are either under indictment or under investigation by federal prosecutors.

[BaconBacon96]

She's still in the lead.

[Free Bird]

She's still in the lead.

Everybody knows who Hillary Clinton. Next to nobody outside of niche circles knows who Rand Paul or Marco Rubio are

[Vega]

She's still in the lead.

Everybody knows who Hillary Clinton. Next to nobody outside of niche circles knows who Rand Paul or Marco Rubio are

I have to disagree. They know who those guys are, they've probably heard their names, it's just  they don't know their policies.

[Mister Mets]

She's not visible. So what do you expect?

How will visibility help? Will Republicans suddenly decide they like her?

[Free Bird]

She's still in the lead.

Everybody knows who Hillary Clinton. Next to nobody outside of niche circles knows who Rand Paul or Marco Rubio are

I have to disagree. They know who those guys are, they've probably heard their names, it's just  they don't know their policies.

Not knowing policies is huge too.

[Panda Express]

41% of the American people have a negative opinion about Clinton? Wow. Bernie Sanders certainly doesn't have 41% of the country holding a negative opinion of him.

[Bojack Horseman]

Thanks hardcore liberals for your character assassination of our shoo-in candidate.

[IceSpear]

Thanks hardcore liberals for your character assassination of our shoo-in candidate.

It has nothing to do with that. It's because Republicans and Republican leaning independents are going back to viewing her unfavorably, along with a general distaste for politicians on general in the current political climate. Her ratings are 85%+ among Democrats and liberals, same as they have been since 2009.