Scottish independence - The Official Atlas Forum mock referendum

[patrick1]

A British loyalist American is a distressing phenomenon.

Also, if Scots get independence, then Ireland would go to war over North Ireland.

Yes, definitely.

Dafuq, oh is this the poster who is 12?

[patrick1]

A British loyalist American is a distressing phenomenon.

Also, if Scots get independence, then Ireland would go to war over North Ireland.

Yes, definitely.

Dafuq, oh is this the poster who is 12?

Yes. Although given the level of discourse I wouldn't be surprised if it were otherwise.

Now I remember why I try to stay off this part of the forums, because I'm actually a waste of humanity. Yay for my seemingly never ending waste of breath that crawls around on the planet and dares to breathe your same air.

Relax Jack.  It is just that I don't know where you would get that the Republic of Ireland would, even if it had the capability, go to war in Northern Ireland because of Scottish Independence.  There are several reasons that this is just an odd and out of left field statement.

[patrick1]

Jack, very brief and simplistic summary: Ireland gained limited independence in 1922 that slowly evolved from the Irish Free state to the Republic of Ireland. The Treaty had partitioned 6 counties in the North that were largely Protestant and in support of the Union.  There was a civil war in Ireland that followed this treaty. The pro-treaty side won and since then the Irish government has been against the IRA and worked in concert with the British against physical force republicanism.  As part of the Good Friday agreement in 1998, the Republic even amended the constitution to remove claim to the North. There has been a political peace process and devolution in the form of the Northern Ireland assembly since.

[patrick1]

Oakvale why are you spending your saturday night explaining why the Republic of Ireland isn't going to invade a friendly country to the north???

(well i guess it's nearly 3 there)

I have no money. This is light entertainment to me at this point in my sick life.

The North is nice this time of year... let the invasion commence

[patrick1]

In Jacks defense, I speculated that Ulster Unionists might have been behind the Boston bombings in the first hours after the attacks. Of course, seeing as two Chechens were the culprits, my suggestion wasn't that crazy.

To be fair, yes it was.

Good documentary on The Troubles if you are interested in learning more, Jack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSb_XhN2L6s

[patrick1]

you might as well just go ahead and rip off the entire band-aid and give Wales independence and give Northern Ireland back to Ireland. Put the "United" Kingdom out of it's misery.

Exactly my position (or, hell, even having a totally independent Northern Ireland but ideally, Ireland would be united again) but Wales would never want to be independent.

Any decision on Northern Ireland must be made in the context and in alignment with the Good Friday Agreement. Scotland should not factor into this equation at all.  Too much blood was spilled and too much work went into building a peace for it to be cavalierly set aside.